OCCUPY WALL STREET

[SoNotHer]

I love this post, and I am so glad one more mother wasn't put out on the streets.

Thank you At Last for evoking the Depression. I get such a charge visiting CCC camps, seeing WPA murals and understanding why and how America got to a fundamental reality in the 30s and how that understanding made us who we are.

Originally Posted by AtLast

Friday's Maddow show had a great report on an "Occupation" of a young mother's eviction situation that led to her gaining more time to be able to deal with solutions-

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/


Also a great Great Depression Era segment with pic of 1930's "encampment" protests formed to help save people's homes- history does repeat itself- and going back and looking at the demonstrations of that era and noting the tactics used then and this action is amazing. Also police action comparisons.

Depression era photo-



Another article that talks about the comparisons to the 1930's protests- and that perhaps we need to look at this more intently instead of most of the 1960's protests as those in the 30's are much more related to the how & why of the Occupy movement taking hold.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7964CY20111007

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by SoNotHer

I love this post, and I am so glad one more mother wasn't put out on the streets.

Thank you At Last for evoking the Depression. I get such a charge visiting CCC camps, seeing WPA murals and understanding why and how America got to a fundamental reality in the 30s and how that understanding made us who we are.

I agree- that era is such an important part of US history. Tough times, yet both government and citizen intervention that worked together- "or and of the people" kinds of solutions.

Hey, my Dad helped build the High Point Monument in New Jersey CCC as part of the CCCs. From that he became a fantastic mason and through the years built amazing stone and brick landscape structures.

[atomiczombie]

By Stephen D. Foster Jr.

This week, the United States Senate passed S. 1867 also known as the National Defense Authorization Act including sections 1031 and 1032 which authorize the military to arrest and indefinitely detain American citizens without trial or charge. Despite national outcry over the bill which effectively suspends the Constitutional rights of those suspected of terrorist activities and would allow Americans to be incarcerated in Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba, the Senate passed the bill by an overwhelming margin of 93-7. This means that Congress could easily override the President’s threatened veto.

But this act of Congress is even more dangerous than we first thought. Included in the bill is Amendment 1068 which was offered by Republican Senator Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire. This part of the bill undermines President Obama’s executive order that bans torture and overrides the list of permissible interrogation techniques in the US Army Field Manual. In other words, the US military could arrest ordinary American citizens without reading them their Miranda Rights, put them in a cell at Gitmo without the benefit of an attorney, a trial, or charges of any kind, and then torture them during interrogation. A secret list of torture techniques would be created without public knowledge.

Who does this affect? Every single man, woman, and child on American soil would be directly affected by this bill. It would give this President and all future Presidents, the power to arrest American citizens with the military and torture them into confession even if they are innocent. Essentially, it turns the Presidency into a dictatorship authorized to use the military against the people.

The Occupy movement in particular could face this unconstitutional military action. Just imagine if Republicans captured the White House in 2012. Conservative media, corporations, and Republican politicians have referred to the Occupy protesters as terrorists or worse than terrorists. Just this accusation alone gives the President cause to unleash the military to round up and arrest the protesters en masse, suspend their constitutional rights, and torture them in a prison off American soil, all because they were exercising their right to protest. This is an extraordinarily dangerous and un-American bill that would destroy the Constitution and our system of government. The judicial system would be powerless to do anything about it too.

We the people must demand that our government discard this bill permanently. It goes against everything America values and stands for. We must write, email, call, and protest our senators and representatives and the White House and call for action. You can also visit this page and sign a petition. Unless Americans stand up and fight this, we may one day have to rely on other countries to free us from ourselves.

LINK: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/12...an-we-thought/

Welcome to the Fascist States of America.

[Cin]

Originally Posted by atomiczombie

LINK: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/12...an-we-thought/

Welcome to the Fascist States of America.

The senate, the house, all our elected officials, they do the will of the people right? So I guess this is what we all wanted or at least the majority of people are not upset by it. I mean if the majority of people objected to the crap that is going on there would be more noise, more people in the street. Not ten, not ten hundred, not ten thousand, there would be hundreds of thousands. There's not. So I can only assume the majority is happy. Well then goodonya. Next they will take our internet. There is so much crap they have already done and will keep doing and with the exception of, relatively speaking, a small group of people (compared to the entire population of the U.S.) most don't even recognize a problem. So really what can ya do? What can you expect? You can't spoon feed awareness. You can't make people see. You certainly can't make them give a shit. You can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink. You can however make him thirsty but sometimes he just ain't gonna drink no matter what. I talked to my sister the other day and with a few minor misgivings she is pretty satisfied with what is going on. Or should I say she feels like it's the best she's going to be able to get. Most seem to be okay with what's happening. I don't know maybe it's me?

I get that the mainstream news doesn't really make it easy to understand what is happening. They do the bidding of the rich who also control the government. But lots of people do get it. So it's possible to figure it out. There are people who have devoted their lives to helping people get it. So it's really a choice. And so far, I don't see change being the choice of the people.

[Corkey]

The only problem with history repeating itself, we still haven't learned, as a people, the lesson of compassion. Perhaps next time.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by Corkey

The only problem with history repeating itself, we still haven't learned, as a people, the lesson of compassion. Perhaps next time.

Very good point, my friend. We sure could use more compassion based historical repeats! And hopefully, do something about the things in our history that were so damn wrong.

[persiphone]

Originally Posted by atomiczombie

LINK: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/12...an-we-thought/

Welcome to the Fascist States of America.

i signed it. and i hate to say told you so. not "you" personally, but "you" as in the general public. gah i hate being right. i so so so wanted to hope that the threat of guantanomo would not be held over our heads. i feel very sad today.

[ruffryder]

Orlando has been ordered to remove personal belongings at their encampment as of midnight Monday or the police will remove it.

In other occupy news, Occupy Wal-Mart ?

[Diavolo]

8 reasons why Ronald Reagan was the worst President of our lifetime


Arguably eight reasons why this is all Reagan's fault.

[SoNotHer]

While I'm grateful something or someone has taken on the quixotic, fuzzy-wuzzy image of Reagan that has been produced for public consumption, the author fails to mention one very large reason Reagan was the worst president in recent history - he dismantled and eviscerated alternative energy research and prjoects. He had the solar panels Carter had had placed on the WH roof taken down, a symbolic gesture that American, even after an oil embargo and even after Carter's (who, remember, has an engineering background) direction and push toward energy independence, and even after abundant and mounting evidence that we were going to run out of petroleum and the GHGs were real and dangerous, Reagan made sure America kept the pump hooked up like an IV line and in fact ignored history and science and plunged head first into its fossil fuel addiction.

So many "Reagan reasons," but this one effects everything...

Originally Posted by Diavolo

8 reasons why Ronald Reagan was the worst President of our lifetime


Arguably eight reasons why this is all Reagan's fault.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by SoNotHer

While I'm grateful something or someone has taken on the quixotic, fuzzy-wuzzy image of Reagan that has been produced for public consumption, the author fails to mention one very large reason Reagan was the worst president in recent history - he dismantled and eviscerated alternative energy research and prjoects. He had the solar panels Carter had had placed on the WH roof taken down, a symbolic gesture that American, even after an oil embargo and even after Carter's (who, remember, has an engineering background) direction and push toward energy independence, and even after abundant and mounting evidence that we were going to run out of petroleum and the GHGs were real and dangerous, Reagan made sure America kept the pump hooked up like an IV line and in fact ignored history and science and plunged head first into its fossil fuel addiction.

So many "Reagan reasons," but this one effects everything...

I can add that he was also the worst Govenor that California has ever had- hummmm.... could also talk about Arnold. Reagan dismantled our mental health system in CA to the point of cruelty for the mentally ill.

There are some very good reasons that his son, Ron is a progresssive!

[persiphone]

Originally Posted by atomiczombie

LINK: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/12...an-we-thought/

Welcome to the Fascist States of America.

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