Susan G Komen Defunds Planned Parenthood.

OS Butch · 02-03-2012, 11:04 AM

Just heard about the reversal....I am finding it hard to continued support to SGK..... When will decide to quit funding again!

JustJo · 02-03-2012, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OS Butch

Just heard about the reversal....I am finding it hard to continued support to SGK..... When will decide to quit funding again!

I've never been impressed by people, companies or organizations that only do the right thing under pressure...or when they've gotten backlash for behaving badly.

I'll keep sending my donations to Planned Parenthood instead.

LaneyDoll · 02-03-2012, 11:19 AM

I agree with JustJo; I am not impressed that they decided to do the right thing b/c of pressure to do so.

In the past, I have supported the Joy to Life Foundation and I will continue to do just as I have always done And, yes, I even have the pink car tag.

http://joytolife.org/

Ryobi · 02-03-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OS Butch

Just heard about the reversal....I am finding it hard to continued support to SGK..... When will decide to quit funding again!

Ya know, I feel this same way. But, SGK funds a lot of good things. I'm angry though that they allowed themselves to be "tainted" by bringing political bullshit into what they do. From now on, I'll be doing direct donations to organizations that I believe in. I was donating to SGK because I trusted that they would be descent in allocating peoples donations.

Also, it pisses me off that it's woman (in this instance) that seem to be leading the attack against PP and womens health. I say, bad form.

UofMfan · 02-03-2012, 11:39 AM

This is exactly what Komen wanted to accomplish, to appease the masses with a red herring.

Beware people!

We need to read and be informed, not just take the dog treat given and wag our tails.

Friday, February 03, 2012
Komen caves, kinda, but still refusing to approve Planned Parenthood’s funding next year America Blog

Komen caves, kinda, but still refusing to approve Planned Parenthood’s funding next year

By John Aravosis on 2/03/2012 12:02:00 PM

The Susan G. Komen foundation caved today. Kinda. They issued a statement apologizing for the mess they created this week when they cut funding for Planned Parenthood breast exams for poor women, seemingly under pressure from far right politicos and anti-choice groups. But Komen's apology is slightly lacking. And according to their own CEO last night, they still can't approve future grants from Planned Parenthood. Unless she was lying.

In the apology Komen says that they'll continue Planned Parenthood's current funding, and they're changing their "no investigations" rule to say that it must be a criminal investigation, and conclusive. Okay, but the current funding wasn't at issue. Komen had always said they'd continue the current funding, so that's a red herring. The issue is next year's funding, which Komen just turned down. And on that account, Komen now says this:

We will continue to fund existing grants, including those of Planned Parenthood, and preserve their eligibility to apply for future grants, while maintaining the ability of our affiliates to make funding decisions that meet the needs of their communities.

Preserve their ability to apply? What, Komen won't go to Planned Parenthood and steal all the pens so PPFA can't apply again in the future? They could always try to apply again. That's not the point.

If Komen is serious, they can simply approve the application Planned Parenthood has already submitted. Yes, they turned it down once, supposedly because of the now-old rule about investigations. Fine. If the rule is gone, then approve the grant.

Of course, it's even more complicated because of a video statement Komen CEO, Republican donor, and former Bush appointee, Nancy Brinker issued last night claiming that the right-wing congressional investigation had nothing to do with the decision to turn down Planned Parenthood's grant. Rather, Brinker now says Komen turned PPFA down because Komen no longer funds pass-through grants. So if that's the case, then changing Komen's investigations-rule won't change a thing. They'll still turn down Planned Parenthood again next time because of the supposed pass-through grant. Unless of course, Nancy Brinker was lying last night. So which is it?

The only way that Komen can get out of this mess is by approving Planned Parenthood's grant now. Komen has the application, they killed it for political reasons, and they got caught. And then to add insult to injury, Brinker concocted a new story last night.

If Komen really wants to do penance, they'll approve PPFA's grant now.

UPDATE: This statement from a right-wing Catholic group pretty much sums things up correctly:

“This represents nothing new. We have known and have reported that they are continuing five grants through 2012. This is a reference to that. The second clause about eligibility is certainly true. Any group can apply for anything. It does not mean they are going to get anything,” Ruse told LifeNews.

“What this is is an effort to get the mafia off of their backs. As James Taranto said in the Wall Street Journal yesterday, this is a classic shakedown operation. Give us money or we will destroy you. This is Komen’s attempt to save their organization, which we should know is in peril. Our side should know that nothing has changed.”

Bottom line: Komen cut funding for Planned Parenthood, it is facing massive revolt from its chapters and temendous opposition from Planned Parenthood and the media, and it appears to be leaving the door open for potential grants — not that they will necessarily happen beyond the ones previously approved prior to the decision — to please both sides.
Now that Planned Parenthood has issued a statement embracing Komen, and apparently accepting the "apology," the battle is over. I'm just not entirely sure that Planned Parenthood won. Komen should approve next year's grant now.

As for the Race for the Cure, we now know what Komen really is. And I don't know about you, but I don't give money to organizations that do David Vitter's bidding.

Parker · 02-03-2012, 11:50 AM

A friend of a friend on Facebook posted this as a comment to the SGK blog about their reversal of their decision to de-fund PP.
I thought it was spot on and it made me chuckle, so I thought I'd share it.

KOMEN PRESS RELEASE TRANSLATION:

Paragraph 1: We're sorry you got mad.

Paragraph 2: We're sad you think we did anything wrong. We didn't.

Paragraph 3: We were justified in what we did but will slightly alter our rules to stop your whining.

Paragraph 4: We'll fund the existing grants to PP until they expire. PP is welcome to apply for future grants but our
local affiliates have discretion to reject PP applications if birth control makes the local communities feel icky.

Paragraph 5: Shut up. If you keep talking about this then you're the one hurting women.

Paragraph 6: We're going to get our story straight and punish any local affiliate that strays from the official truth.

Paragraph 7: Thanks to the anti-stem cell research, anti-birth control people who like our decision.

CherylNYC · 02-03-2012, 11:53 AM

Many of us in the women's motorcycling community have been raising funds for breast cancer research through the Pony Express Tour, as well as other initiatives of the Women's Motorcyclist Foundation. Those funds have always gone to Komen. I'm the artist that made the multi-part commemorative medallion that was an integral part of the fundraising tour every year. I'm planning to agitate for the WMF to find a better recipient for our future largesse.

MsDemeanor · 02-03-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CherylNYC

Many of us in the women's motorcycling community have been raising funds for breast cancer research through the Pony Express Tour, as well as other initiatives of the Women's Motorcyclist Foundation. Those funds have always gone to Komen. I'm the artist that made the multi-part commemorative medallion that was an integral part of the fundraising tour every year. I'm planning to agitate for the WMF to find a better recipient for our future largesse.

Your response is what i am hoping to see on a wide scale. SGK has defined themselves as anti-choice, and the faux apology does not change that. As long as they keep their anti-choice VP and board members, they will continue to be an anti-choice organization.

AtLast · 02-03-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

Your response is what i am hoping to see on a wide scale. SGK has defined themselves as anti-choice, and the faux apology does not change that. As long as they keep their anti-choice VP and board members, they will continue to be an anti-choice organization.

I agree. There are other breast cancer organizations to support, which I will do. Mainly, any donations I can give in terms of cash will be directly to Planned Parenthood. No way will I ever walk for Lomen again, either.

This also isn't an isolated incident of how the right-wingers have, are and will continue to errode women's healthcare on every level. There has been even a stronger, more far-reaching assault since the 2010 mid-term elections. Sadly, it took this to wake most people up to what is going on in a larger and nation wide way. But women are losing healthcare options everyday in this country. Waking up has to happen and lead to action.

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02-03-2012, 11:53 AM	#7
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02-03-2012, 11:50 AM	#6
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