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Old 02-04-2012, 08:18 PM   #1
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Everysence I have been deaing with diabetis I have had probs about washing out,the doc has me on 1200 cals a day and 140 carbs a day,even with that I have probs with light headedness,being tired,takeing naps cause of tiredness,being always just this sides if hungry most of the time.Today I bought a book by Nolan& Heslen who are diabetic docs,in the book they have a way to gauge how many claories and carbs that you can have to get to a your goal weight..My goal weight is 200 X 13( my activity factor for moderate activity)= 2600calories a day I should be eating = 325 carbs a day.The plan is that if I follow that set of number I will reach my goal weight cause im eating the ammount of calories and carbs for that weigh.currently I weigh 252..thats what it said on the scales today,if I follow the numbers for 252= 3246 in calories a day and the carbs go off the chart cause nither go that high.A lot of my problem is I have no real energy anymore,I wash out if I dont watch it,I got some glucerna bars today so I havent had a chanch to use them yet,my number are still good but all day today all I have done is rest and sleep.I have a docs appointment on 3-3-2012 so I know I will amnage till then if I need to I can go to the er.
Hi Rockin,

Honestly, 1200 calories doesn't sound like near enough to me. When I was pregnant with my son (and had gestational diabetes) they put me on 1500 calories a day at first...and I started losing weight way too fast. They put me up to 1800 and everything balanced out.

I haven't counted calories exactly since then, but know that I aim for about 1800ish now too and am losing weight slowly. I currently weigh 204....so my calorie need is actually lower than yours.

I'm not a medical professional by any stretch of the imagination, but it seems like you're on too restrictive of a diet to me when it comes to calories. Limiting carbs and fats are both important for diabetics....but you still need enough calories to get adequate nutrients, and so that your body doesn't decide there's a famine on and start hanging on to every fat cell.

A dear friend of mine is pre-diabetic and weighs about 275 right now. The doctors put her on a 2,400 calorie plan and she's losing slowly.
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Hi Rockin,

Honestly, 1200 calories doesn't sound like near enough to me. When I was pregnant with my son (and had gestational diabetes) they put me on 1500 calories a day at first...and I started losing weight way too fast. They put me up to 1800 and everything balanced out.

I haven't counted calories exactly since then, but know that I aim for about 1800ish now too and am losing weight slowly. I currently weigh 204....so my calorie need is actually lower than yours.

I'm not a medical professional by any stretch of the imagination, but it seems like you're on too restrictive of a diet to me when it comes to calories. Limiting carbs and fats are both important for diabetics....but you still need enough calories to get adequate nutrients, and so that your body doesn't decide there's a famine on and start hanging on to every fat cell.

A dear friend of mine is pre-diabetic and weighs about 275 right now. The doctors put her on a 2,400 calorie plan and she's losing slowly.
I feel like im on stall,everything is just funky,I ate skettie and meat balls for dinner last night w/1 small slice of garlic bread..this was at 6;00pm by 9pm I was on my way to a crash.I had eaten sencable all day but just had no reserve at al,l one of my team mates ran to the drug store and got some clucose pills and was literaly feeding the dam thing to me till I could think straight.Sje works with a nurseing home with lots of dabetic folks that she is incharge of theire daily intake and giveing them meds when needed.She also tested me right there and I was at 90 on the count..heck i've never been that low.Im going to slowly add calories and carbs cause I need to do something itll my appointment in march cause im so tired of feeling this way,I want to get back to the workouts but this way I keep crashing if I dont watch it.
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I feel like im on stall,everything is just funky,I ate skettie and meat balls for dinner last night w/1 small slice of garlic bread..this was at 6;00pm by 9pm I was on my way to a crash.I had eaten sencable all day but just had no reserve at al,l one of my team mates ran to the drug store and got some clucose pills and was literaly feeding the dam thing to me till I could think straight.Sje works with a nurseing home with lots of dabetic folks that she is incharge of theire daily intake and giveing them meds when needed.She also tested me right there and I was at 90 on the count..heck i've never been that low.Im going to slowly add calories and carbs cause I need to do something itll my appointment in march cause im so tired of feeling this way,I want to get back to the workouts but this way I keep crashing if I dont watch it.
Yes it sounds like you're getting too low.

One thing I found is that when I eat white flour products (like regular pasta or white bread) they quickly turn to sugar....so my blood sugar soars, then crashes lower than before.

Eating things that are lower on the glycemic index measure seems to help me stay more stable. I have a book on it...but I know there is good information out on the web about low glycemic foods. The other thing that has helped me to eat more lean protein and more healthy fat (like olives, olive oil and avocado). One of my most frequent snacks is a stick of string cheese and a handful of olives....works like a charm for me.

Definitely keep testing, and recording what you eat. Every diabetic is different....so you'll need to keep some records until you learn what it is that keeps you stable and what triggers either a spike or a crash for you.

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Yes it sounds like you're getting too low.

One thing I found is that when I eat white flour products (like regular pasta or white bread) they quickly turn to sugar....so my blood sugar soars, then crashes lower than before.

Eating things that are lower on the glycemic index measure seems to help me stay more stable. I have a book on it...but I know there is good information out on the web about low glycemic foods. The other thing that has helped me to eat more lean protein and more healthy fat (like olives, olive oil and avocado). One of my most frequent snacks is a stick of string cheese and a handful of olives....works like a charm for me.

Definitely keep testing, and recording what you eat. Every diabetic is different....so you'll need to keep some records until you learn what it is that keeps you stable and what triggers either a spike or a crash for you.

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When I found out I had diabetis I got this pack in the mail about what I shoud eat and how much of what in calories and carbs,thats it, I havent gotten one shred of info form the hospital or the doc beond that,I figured with all the ballwhoo about this more infor and how to deal with this would be at hand from them.I do keep a food journal,fixin skettie was a spur of the moment things cause I was in a hurry cause it was my night to play pool so I didnt want much to cleanup and put away...next time I wil plan better.
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When I found out I had diabetis I got this pack in the mail about what I shoud eat and how much of what in calories and carbs,thats it, I havent gotten one shred of info form the hospital or the doc beond that,I figured with all the ballwhoo about this more infor and how to deal with this would be at hand from them.I do keep a food journal,fixin skettie was a spur of the moment things cause I was in a hurry cause it was my night to play pool so I didnt want much to cleanup and put away...next time I wil plan better.
I totally hear you...and it's a pain to figure out. It took me years...and I still have spikes and crashes when I get caught somewhere longer than I expected, etc.

Hang in there...you'll get this!
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I have to admit that lately I've been letting my diet slide, not taking my metformin, and not doing a damn thing about it, I'd use the excuse that I've been ill off and on for the past two months, but that's not really an excuse, I'm responsible for my own health and well-being.
It can be hard sticking to the diets and taking the meds sometimes, at least it is for me, because here in the UK there's hardly anywhere, when you don't live in or near a city, to get foods which are low or no sugar, yeah I can get all the fresh fruit and vege from the farmers markets, but my RA makes it hard to be able to stand and prep then cook a healthy meal, and the support network is no good because it's all based too far away to travel to without ending up contorted into a mini pretzel on public transport.
I've also found that if I constantly take the dosage of metformin they want me to, I end up with so little energy that just getting out of bed is hard and it's already difficult enough with my RA getting in the way as it is...
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((( Massive )))

I so hear you on the fatigue thing. I think sometimes it's hard for people who don't share it to understand just how bone-aching exhausted we can get....and sometimes for what seems to be for no reason to non-diabetic folks. Honestly, I can't even imagine pairing it with the pain and stiffness of RA as well.

And....I'm still gonna waggle my finger at you and tell you to take care of yourself. Fresh stuff is better than processed....and it's still possible to eat healthy even when you're not up to cooking....fruit, low fat cheese, salad, greek yogurt....these are the things I grab when I'm without the time or energy to cook. And they help me stay in balance.

And take your meds please....I know what a pain it can be, but it's important. We want to keep you around!
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