Small Plane Crashes in Austin Tx

[Dude]

This guy really showed them ,didn't he?

Leaving his wife and daughter with absolutely nothing, I guess he showed them too.

He will be remembered as the nutcase who flew into the IRS building in Austin and left his family with zilch.
Nothing more.

Similar to the nut who bulldozed his house so the bank would not get it.
(of course he didn't harm anyone so it really does not compare except in terms of the mentality)
Cry baby men who cant endure reality.
Pathetic losers if you ask me.
Poor baby ,he was surely gonna lose his plane.
How grandiose must his thinking have been to think his pound would do a fuckin thing?

The IRS has this little thing called a payment plan ( lucky for me)
Of course I hated them for having to pay all that money but
mostly I hated myself for getting myself in that mess to begin with.

I feel awful for his family and the innocent victims.

deranged? yes
hero ? as far from that as you can get in my book

[Ashlea?]

Aren't we chipper?

Never called him a hero, but you apparently are one of those "I'll shh and pay the unlawful taxes, lordy lordy don't haul me away" types, so I won't continue arguing.

Hurts getting fucked by the iron dildo of a government.

[Dude]

Originally Posted by Ashlea?

Aren't we chipper?

Never called him a hero, but you apparently are one of those "I'll shh and pay the unlawful taxes, lordy lordy don't haul me away" types, so I won't continue arguing.

Hurts getting fucked by the iron dildo of a government.

I presume you are talking to me.

No , I assure you I am far from chipper ,ever.(although I love the word)

Color me a wus for wanting to have a house and good credit because I paid them?
Would it be the more intelligent choice to end up in prison and/or have a hefty tax lien
haunting me the rest of my life?

[Ashlea?]

^ Exactly my point. See what I ment about the "dur" effect. WHY are we afraid of the IRS, prison, taxes?

Anyone care to think about that yet?

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[Goofy]

Originally Posted by Ashlea?

^ Exactly my point. See what I ment about the "dur" effect. WHY are we afraid of the IRS, prison, taxes?

Anyone care to think about that yet?

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I'm not afraid of the IRS, prison or taxes. Why are you?

[AtLast]

I believe this to be an act of terrorism against innocent people. I have only caught small cuts of news about this as this time, but one report I heard concerned this not being called terrorism.

I'm thinking about how I sure as hell would feel terror if I were in thiat building! And what about the friends & family of those working there (and of the person that was killed other than the perp)?

Oaklahoma City (McVey) felt like a terrorist act to me. What, only acts of violence against innocent people in the US by someone from another country are terrorism?

Interested in what others think about this. I don't know that identifying it as such is in any way helpful to the victims/families, and I guess that is what really matters to me. Just thinking about this....

And I feel badly for the people of Austin having had this happen. Makes one think about how something like this can happen anywhere.

[Ashlea?]

Originally Posted by Goofy

I'm not afraid of the IRS, prison or taxes. Why are you?

Never said I was.

[blush]

Originally Posted by Ashlea?

^ Exactly my point. See what I ment about the "dur" effect. WHY are we afraid of the IRS, prison, taxes?

Anyone care to think about that yet?

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Originally Posted by Ashlea?

Never said I was.

You seem to say that here.

[I'mOneToo]

are you talking about driving by a prison, or being a "guest" for an undetermined length of time?

only time i ever went to a prison was to drive a friend to visit a buddy in san quentin. when we got there she said if i went in i'd have to be searched, and they have a right to strip search you, search your car, and anything you're carrying. if you go in and refuse the search, the inmate is refused visiting privileges that day. i opted to wait outside in the car. yes i was scared, lol.

and the irs, i had them up my ass for a measly $60 in income that i didn't report. by the time they "caught me red-handed in my fraud attempt" (four years later) it cost over $400 in fines and late penalties.

it wasn't fraud it was a 1099 that someone never gave me for a $60 job i did that she reported to the irs for HER purposes but neglected to give me the piece i needed to keep from perpetrating "tax fraud".

i wouldn't fly any planes in over it. and i don't do any more contract labor.

OH shit yes i did, several years later! I filed an estimated tax return, you know when you guess how much you think you're going to make? Well they disagreed with me. They decided I was going to make $10k in 3 months instead of the $2k i made, and they hit me for the full liability of their guesstimate of $10k AND they froze my bank accounts. You know what? They don't give you BACK your bank accounts until THEY have decided that it's all settled. And in that case, I didn't owe them a dime, they ended up owing me because the estimate i paid was higher than the tax liability.

Still I wouldn't do them any harm. But they operate with the assumption that the citizen is a criminal and they hold all your assets until THEY decide that you're not. It's okay for them to steal from a citizen, but the citizen has no recourse. None whatsoever. And they take their sweet time giving you back what is rightfully yours.

And they didn't even apologize.

Originally Posted by Goofy

I'm not afraid of the IRS, prison or taxes. Why are you?

[~Bo]

How any of you can condone this act of violence in any way, shape or form is ridiculous.

And frankly a little scary.

[Ashlea?]

pft...Here we go.

I never said I condone his behavior. Did I?...No,No I did not. Easy on the trigger tiger

I said look at the problem behind this. Why did he do this? Once again, i'll stop right there.

[~Bo]

Originally Posted by Ashlea?

pft...Here we go.

I never said I condone his behavior. Did I?...No,No I did not. Easy on the trigger tiger

I said look at the problem behind this. Why did he do this? Once again, i'll stop right there.

Doesn't matter WHY he did it at all. No matter what the reason......still wrong.

[Ashlea?]

And what your government is doing to us isn't wrong? People are going to what they are going to do. I don't condone this behavior at all. Maybe people would not resort to this behavior if they were not afraid of a government that should be afraid of it's people.

[~Bo]

Originally Posted by Ashlea?

And what your government is doing to us isn't wrong? People are going to what they are going to do. I don't condone this behavior at all. Maybe people would not resort to this behavior if they were not afraid of a government that should be afraid of it's people.

I'm not saying what the gov't does is right or wrong. That's not the issue. The issue is some deranged asshole trying to kill innocent people. I don't give a tiny rat's ass why he did it.
These people should not have to die because of HIS issues.

[Ashlea?]

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[Cyclopea]

He probably had a psychotic reaction to some pharmaceutical they'll pull off the market in a year or two.
Glad he didn't kill more people.

[Diva]

Originally Posted by Dude~a~Licious

This guy really showed them ,didn't he?

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Similar to the nut who bulldozed his house so the bank would not get it.

Did he get a permit from the city to do that?

[~Bo]

Originally Posted by Diva

Did he get a permit from the city to do that?

Boy, they have permits for everything these days, don't they!!

[Ashlea?]

You are absolutely right. I did put "we", my apologies. But are you really going to try and stick with your argument that people are not afraid of their government? If not by taxes, name one out of a billion other things that our government has us by the balls by.

Are you really going to deny the fear?

That being said, are you really going to deny that our government has us afraid which is contradictory to the foundation of the constitution? This country?

I really just want people to sit and think about that. Out of EVERYTHING we fight/disagree about, we should STILL not fear our government for any reason. Its unconscionable, and unconstitutional.

[Rufusboi]

Originally Posted by Ashlea?

You are absolutely right. I did put "we", my apologies. But are you really going to try and stick with your argument that people are not afraid of their government? If not by taxes, name one out of a billion other things that our government has us by the balls by.

Are you really going to deny the fear?

That being said, are you really going to deny that our government has us afraid which is contradictory to the foundation of the constitution? This country?

I really just want people to sit and think about that. Out of EVERYTHING we fight/disagree about, we should STILL not fear our government for any reason. Its unconscionable, and unconstitutional.

And don't forget that CPS can investigate and take your kids based on "reports" of abuse. Pics of your kids in the bath tub? Be careful who sees them as you might have a government agency on your doorstep asking about child pornography. Got a beef with your neighbor. Pray he or she doesn't go to the police and make up reports of terrorism, drugs, bombs etc on. Watch what you check out of the library too. Its all kept on record. And if you end up on the no fly list due to an error or you have the same name as someone on the list, well give it up, you're driving from now on. Imagine being an 18 year old high school senior who has sex with his 16 year old high school girlfriend. Oops. your're now on the sexual predator list for LIFE. It happens. Uhh don't want to get on the wrong side of the US government. My girlfriend is a naturalized citizen and worries that the Feds have her fingerprints on file for life. Had to be fingerprinted to get her citizenship. That's it, she's on the grid for life. She's in the database. She laughs about it but seriously they have them. It gives you pause. Oh and be careful what you write on this board, on any internet board, on an email because you put the wrong string of words together and bam......listen for that knock on the door. Or you say the wrong thing on the phone.......they're listening......Uhhh you have to be careful what you do, what you say, who you make friends with. Call me paranoid .....but I think there is a lot of truth to what I say. Oh and don't get me started on all the people who are innocent and end up in prison for years on end. And all the mismangement, fraud, corruption, bribery, incompetent workers, graft, nepotism, friends hiring friends at all level of government and in all government agencies.

Rufus