OFOS Butches & Femmes

[1ladyface]

I've been relatively quiet but I just want to say that this is my most favorite thread to lurk! Thanks for the good reads.

[SweetJane]

Originally Posted by ArkansasPiscesGrrl

I got the same catch in my throat when I read this. Oh my...

Arkansas, I teared up when I read it....Yeah. I'd like one of those, please.

[1QuirkyKiwi]

I can’t say if I’m OFOS or not, simply because I was raised within the Maori culture where politeness, respect, consideration and loyalty are common place; even amongst family members.

Very often I’m told that I’m painfully polite….it’s a part of who I am. I’m proud to be well mannered and courteous regardless of what others think.

[genghisfawn]

Where oh where is my OF/OS butch? They say chivalry isn't dead, they say old-fashioned isn't out of fashion, etc. but where is hy?



Never mind me and my whining. I'm struggling with broken heat, a broken toilet and not enough blankets. If I could find hym, at least I wouldn't be cold!

[Bootsandheels]

Originally Posted by claybaby

so true, kittygrrrl. Manners, chivalry, respect, courtesy, and being attentive & kind are qualities that make me OFOS. As someone said..."walk the walk and talk the talk".
I tend to place my palm under her elbow if we are walking in someplace...OR offer her my arm, pull out her chair, and even order for her IF I am certain of her tastes.
If walking on a sidewalk, I always take the outside, place my hand at the small of her back ever so lightly, and put my other hand under her elbow if pathway is uneven.
I help her take off her coat, and don it afterwards..and even so much as that small, genuine yet ever so innocently intimate pulling her hair out and fanning it just so off the collar....grinz...
After the date, I walk her to her door, ask if I may kiss top of her hand..and then watch her safely in...even using her key to unlock her door for her..and make sure door is closed and secure before I leave!
It isn't about the $$ BUT the genuine sincerity and quality of a date and using my manners, courtesy, respect, and chivalry.....these cost no money and are PRICELESS!
I am so OF I prefer to call her...initially anyway...and I will text her or call her the next day or so....just to tell her what a wonderful evening I had and how much I enjoyed the pleasure of her company!!
These attributes should be present with us....all places and at all times...mine continue even into a LTR...these aren't just for dates and such...they are with me FOR LIFE! just my .02...smiles

Originally Posted by kittygrrl

This is perfection (to me)..it's not about going thru the motions of doing what someone (OS femme) might expect..it's all about believing in what you are doing and owning it (as part of who you are)..being otherwise is misleading..if that's not who you are, then don't try to pull it off..but if you're trying to figure it out if it feels right (for you)then that is exciting and it would be a privilege to have hym take my hand.

*Struts in so you all can hear me coming... Oh can I get an "AMEN" here?! THANK YOU for sharing everyone! OFOS is SO misunderstood and mistaken out here in the pacific NW...the butches seem terrified of me or something...haven't they ever seen or been around a real lady with integrity, honesty and a femme who knows how to treat them like gold and drop them to their knees with one well placed touch? Good Lord...I'm about to lose faith and heart. However...I will NOT lose these vital 'ingredients' that make me who I am...a fierce sexy OFOS femme with high standards who knows what she wants and needs and will not settle for less. Maybe that means I'll be alone but that's ok...I'd rather be alone than settle for anything less than a gentlmyn butch! *Curtsies and exits stage left....

[clay]

Originally Posted by Bootsandheels

*Struts in so you all can hear me coming... Oh can I get an "AMEN" here?! THANK YOU for sharing everyone! OFOS is SO misunderstood and mistaken out here in the pacific NW...the butches seem terrified of me or something...haven't they ever seen or been around a real lady with integrity, honesty and a femme who knows how to treat them like gold and drop them to their knees with one well placed touch? Good Lord...I'm about to lose faith and heart. However...I will NOT lose these vital 'ingredients' that make me who I am...a fierce sexy OFOS femme with high standards who knows what she wants and needs and will not settle for less. Maybe that means I'll be alone but that's ok...I'd rather be alone than settle for anything less than a gentlmyn butch! *Curtsies and exits stage left....

Bootsie...YOU are an amazingly beautiful soul...your presence illuminates the room....as does your impeccable manners, refined elegance, a true lady in every sense of the word, and your aura...of how you are who you are...and apologize to no one..you OWN you...you are "felt" long before you enter a room...powerful, sensuous, and so decadently elegant! Have a cup of mexican hot chocolate, gorgeous!!! THANKS for the validation, the affirmations, and being YOU, my friend!! You exude "old fashioned" and "respect"..you carry YOU well.. WORK it Girl!!! bows and tip brim of fedora to all the ladies......Clay

[1QuirkyKiwi]

I love it when K gently kisses my hands and forehead and leads me gracefully to the table or door, etc, before doing the gentle(wo)manly thing of pulling out the chair or opening the door.

Yesterday, she escorted my to the Uni reception, wished me ‘Good luck’ and waited in the car with a book to read. Whilst helping me in and out of the car hy help my coat.

It’s too early to say whether this is her Army training and the rank she held of Major, or if it’s how she was also raised….it’s fun discovering! LOL!

Is this chivalry common place among veterans of the Military, or is it just a typical British Army thing?

[Firedance]

*Fire hugs her Fierce-Femme-Sista as she exits.*

"Amen, Sister. I know you and Clay have heard this before, but I'm going to say my piece."

*Fire confidently strides to the mic in her black strappy heels, with just the slights swish of her hips, and proclaims...*


"Give me a Butch that knows how to kiss the back of my hand when we meet,
and I'll give you one entranced Femme!


Pull out my chair,
and as I sit, I'll look over my shoulder and smile, just for you.


Open my door,
and I'll step out with enough grace to take your breath away.


Place your hand in the small of my back,
and I'll shudder with delight. My body will react to the smallest pressure, and we will walk together seamlessly.


Offer me your arm,
and I shall take it with pride, and walk just suggestively enough that everyone will look at us, and see how happy I am to be with you.


Give me your respect,
and I will give you mine, and everywhere we go, people will stare, and wish they were us."

~Fire.

Originally Posted by Bootsandheels

*Struts in so you all can hear me coming... Oh can I get an "AMEN" here?! THANK YOU for sharing everyone! OFOS is SO misunderstood and mistaken out here in the pacific NW...the butches seem terrified of me or something...haven't they ever seen or been around a real lady with integrity, honesty and a femme who knows how to treat them like gold and drop them to their knees with one well placed touch? Good Lord...I'm about to lose faith and heart. However...I will NOT lose these vital 'ingredients' that make me who I am...a fierce sexy OFOS femme with high standards who knows what she wants and needs and will not settle for less. Maybe that means I'll be alone but that's ok...I'd rather be alone than settle for anything less than a gentlmyn butch! *Curtsies and exits stage left....

[gaea]

Originally Posted by Firedance

*Fire hugs her Fierce-Femme-Sista as she exits.*

"Amen, Sister. I know you and Clay have heard this before, but I'm going to say my piece."

*Fire confidently strides to the mic in her black strappy heels, with just the slights swish of her hips, and proclaims...*


"Give me a Butch that knows how to kiss the back of my hand when we meet,
and I'll give you one entranced Femme!


Pull out my chair,
and as I sit, I'll look over my shoulder and smile, just for you.


Open my door,
and I'll step out with enough grace to take your breath away.


Place your hand in the small of my back,
and I'll shudder with delight. My body will react to the smallest pressure, and we will walk together seamlessly.


Offer me your arm,
and I shall take it with pride, and walk just suggestively enough that everyone will look at us, and see how happy I am to be with you.


Give me your respect,
and I will give you mine, and everywhere we go, people will stare, and wish they were us."

~Fire.

Beautiful....

[Jess]

Howdy everyone.. smiles and tips hat...

I haven't participated in this thread, but if it new life gets breathed into it, I would like to. It is becoming increasingly more difficult to find truly like minded souls out here and I very much appreciate the thoughts/ ideals/ emotions I have read here.

An old soul from an old school embracing today's world... I can't say how just knowing you all are out there living it too makes my load less burdensome and the road less lonely.

Thank you all.

[Justin]

Originally Posted by Firedance

*Fire hugs her Fierce-Femme-Sista as she exits.*

"Amen, Sister. I know you and Clay have heard this before, but I'm going to say my piece."

*Fire confidently strides to the mic in her black strappy heels, with just the slights swish of her hips, and proclaims...*


"Give me a Butch that knows how to kiss the back of my hand when we meet,
and I'll give you one entranced Femme!


Pull out my chair,
and as I sit, I'll look over my shoulder and smile, just for you.


Open my door,
and I'll step out with enough grace to take your breath away.


Place your hand in the small of my back,
and I'll shudder with delight. My body will react to the smallest pressure, and we will walk together seamlessly.


Offer me your arm,
and I shall take it with pride, and walk just suggestively enough that everyone will look at us, and see how happy I am to be with you.


Give me your respect,
and I will give you mine, and everywhere we go, people will stare, and wish they were us."

~Fire.

This is very well said !!! I love it

How did I miss this thread?......oh yea work and SCHOOL LOL

I am very much Old School and somewhat Old Fashioned in that I do believe in manners and respect. There is just something within me that makes me that way, its just natural and what makes me feel right. Its something that sometimes I feel has gotten lost through the years through cultural changes and our style of dynamic (Butch-femme) becoming less popular and more of the misunderstood sect.

Have a great night all !!!

[starryeyes]

Originally Posted by Justin

This is very well said !!! I love it

How did I miss this thread?......oh yea work and SCHOOL LOL

I am very much Old School and somewhat Old Fashioned in that I do believe in manners and respect. There is just something within me that makes me that way, its just natural and what makes me feel right. Its something that sometimes I feel has gotten lost through the years through cultural changes and our style of dynamic (Butch-femme) becoming less popular and more of the misunderstood sect.

Have a great night all !!!

You are definitely old school and have stolen my heart. I never thought I would meet someone who treats me the way you do. You make me feel so loved, special and beautiful everyday. I can only hope I make you feel the same. <3

[mariamma]

Originally Posted by claybaby

Bootsie...YOU are an amazingly beautiful soul...your presence illuminates the room....as does your impeccable manners, refined elegance, a true lady in every sense of the word, and your aura...of how you are who you are...and apologize to no one..you OWN you...you are "felt" long before you enter a room...powerful, sensuous, and so decadently elegant! Have a cup of mexican hot chocolate, gorgeous!!! THANKS for the validation, the affirmations, and being YOU, my friend!! You exude "old fashioned" and "respect"..you carry YOU well.. WORK it Girl!!! bows and tip brim of fedora to all the ladies......Clay

Such a gentlemyn claybaby Keep it up. Keep setting the bar for what an honorable butch/boi/stud is to us gratefully femmes.

[Firedance]

So I have a question for ya'll.

As a Femme, I know OFOS when I see it. But I've been wondering how my counterparts recognize an OFOS Femme when you meet one?

~Fire.

[~ocean]

hi ((( fire ))) from another femme , I've always felt the energy ~

[OS Butch]

Originally Posted by Firedance

So I have a question for ya'll.

As a Femme, I know OFOS when I see it. But I've been wondering how my counterparts recognize an OFOS Femme when you meet one?

~Fire.

Actions speak louder than words. For me, I watch to see what the reaction is to my actions. Getting to a door before me is a little hint

I have just about stopped using OFOS because it seems so misunderstood almost as if it is a bad thing...I dunno. So, there might be Femmes out there that don't id as OFOS, just as there are a number of Butchly sorts that don't like the term OFOS.

[Leigh]

Its nice to know that OFOS butches do still exist

[Firedance]

Originally Posted by OS Butch

Actions speak louder than words. For me, I watch to see what the reaction is to my actions. Getting to a door before me is a little hint

I have just about stopped using OFOS because it seems so misunderstood almost as if it is a bad thing...I dunno. So, there might be Femmes out there that don't id as OFOS, just as there are a number of Butchly sorts that don't like the term OFOS.

I almost had a little heart attack there! So, to clarify, have you almost stopped using the term, "OFOS", or have you almost stopped using the manners that OFOS refers to?

... Please, please tell me it's the first, and not the second option!

[clay]

My "OFOS" will never go away..it is ingrained into my soul and fabric and being.
I understand what OSB is saying...using those letters to describe oneself..well...sometimes is viewed in a negative way.
BUT what I have inside of me..doesn't ever leave..it is as deeply a part of me as is my heart and my blood...it is vital to who I am..and it doesn't have to be visible for it to be present..and my OFOS femme does indeed "feel it", sense it, and reap that energy from me...
For me, OFOS is not a part of the "good old days" or the 50's or about a woman being "less than" in MY world...it IS about being with manners, courtesies, respect, considerations, cavalierly manners, equality, voice,and many other things that will always be a part of my fabric and morals and has been part of me from my earliest days of being....just my .02.
I do like to open doors, pull out chairs, walk with my arm in small of her back, help her don/doff her coat, and walk on outside of her with elbow cupped in my hand..among so many other things...this is just what is part of me...my personal stuff I own...so much more to share BUT I do have to be in bed now..and up early....have a greta night...

[kittygrrl]

Originally Posted by OS Butch

Actions speak louder than words. For me, I watch to see what the reaction is to my actions. Getting to a door before me is a little hint

I have just about stopped using OFOS

please don't. You're among friends here