Law and Order: SVU with Special Guest Kathy Griffin as lesbian

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Originally Posted by Rufusboi

So what happens when queers play straights? David Hyde Pierce played a straight guy for years. Should he give up that part to a straight guy? Portia de Rossi plays straight parts? Should she refuse these? Jodie Foster? Vin Diesel? Neil Patrick Harris? Should they all refuse straight parts because they are gay?

Since when is Vin Diesel gay?

really?

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Originally Posted by Cyclopea

Well here ya go enjoy
YouTube- Lady Kisses: That's Gay

Thanks I watched this.
at WORK.

Originally Posted by NJFemmie

Did this show air yet?

wednesday night it comes on

[NJFemmie]

Thank you! Our TV died (yes, it was sad) ... so I need to make sure we're upstairs for this one. I am curious to see how it plays out.

[Queerasfck]

It's about money really and how much the straight world will "buy" into the gay world. High ratings equal more money What do we as the community get back? I would love to support queer business and arts as much as possible and do. Problem is the choices are few. Then I just get the feeling we're being exploited especially when it comes to accurate representation in the media. The thing about a show like the L Word was that it was mostly crap, in writing and acting. Some queer had an idea for a show (which coulda been a really good idea) and Showtime decided they could make money off of it ("hot women having sex with each other, it sells"). Yes, there were a few queers in real life on the show as someone else already mentioned. Also the show's creator Ilene Chaiken is a lesbian and two of the directors are out lesbians, Rose Troche and Angela Robinson come to mind. It didn't represent any lesbians I know, and not realistic about it's protrayals of everyday people, homosexual, lesbian, queer or otherwise most of the time. I mean who goes out to breakfast with their friends everyday before work and then goes clubbing several nights during the work week?? Really no different than Queer as Folk. At times unbelievable about more serious topics as well....
The SVU episode clips NBC shows is all about shock value in hopes to gain viewership as the rating slip for that played out show. It's just about how far they can push things to get you to watch. It's too bad because I do like the cast.
Milk was directed by Gus Van Sant an out gay man. I don't think of the money went back into the gay community. But wouldn't it be great if performances like those in the movie Milk or Brokeback Mountain could really change people's ideas about certain stereotypes. For the most part I don't think they do. My sister who loves, loves James Franco and has seen everything James Franco has ever done wouldn't even see Milk because she thought it was a "downer". Probably the majority of the hetro US population don't want to see regular stories about queers. I think we as a queer people do more by living our lives outwardly when we can on a daily basis. We're really just the same as everybody except we don't have rights.

[SassyLeo]

Originally Posted by EzeeTiger

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The thing about a show like the L Word was that it was mostly crap, in writing and acting. Some queer had an idea for a show (which coulda been a really good idea) and Showtime decided they could make money off of it ("hot women having sex with each other, it sells"). Yes, there were a few queers in real life on the show as someone else already mentioned. Also the show's creator Ilene Chaiken is a lesbian and two of the directors are out lesbians, Rose Troche and Angela Robinson come to mind. It didn't represent any lesbians I know, and not realistic about it's protrayals of everyday people, homosexual, lesbian, queer or otherwise most of the time. I mean who goes out to breakfast with their friends everyday before work and then goes clubbing several nights during the work week?? Really no different than Queer as Folk. At times unbelievable about more serious topics as well....
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So I've been thinking more about this today.

Ever since the L Word aired, I have had so many mixed feelings about it.

1. Yay, the Queers have a show! Yay, it is all about Lesbians! Yay, it is on a big time cable network! Yay, it has a couple of well known actors!

2. Boo, it is not on primetime TV. Boo, 99% of the actors are straight women. Boo, the characters are totally not "real life" type Lesbians.

So basically they have perpetuated the totally stereotypical and also unrealistic Lesbian world. But at least it is on TV, right? (I'm being sort of glib).

What is worse, having dramatic unrealistic visibility or having visibility at all?

[Queerasfck]

Originally Posted by SassyLeo

So I've been thinking more about this today.

Ever since the L Word aired, I have had so many mixed feelings about it.

1. Yay, the Queers have a show! Yay, it is all about Lesbians! Yay, it is on a big time cable network! Yay, it has a couple of well known actors!

2. Boo, it is not on primetime TV. Boo, 99% of the actors are straight women. Boo, the characters are totally not "real life" type Lesbians.

So basically they have perpetuated the totally stereotypical and also unrealistic Lesbian world. But at least it is on TV, right? (I'm being sort of glib).

What is worse, having dramatic unrealistic visibility or having visibility at all?

Totally agree with what you've posted here SassyLeo. I think queer representation in the media is really important. I have mixed feelings about straights playing gay. There were no queers on tv when I was growning up. Occasionally if trans person or queer was shown they were freaks. No doubt there have been some positive things on tv and the movies recently but still there are a lot of stereotypes constantly thrown in. By reading this thread I see that tonight's episode of SVU was dissappointing to many viewers.