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Old 10-24-2012, 04:29 PM   #1
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They seem to understand and "get" the June Cleaver lifestyle. They respect it. They don't balk at many of the common courtesies. Doors get held open, chairs pulled back, Ma'am is said...

Yes indeed....it's how I believe it should be....thanks for noticing when we do it...<smile>....
I am what I call old fashioned/ old school and I absolutely agree with the respect and dynamics of the relationship. I seem to be a million miles away from every single, stable ftm on the Planet! Just my luck!!!
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Hmm, I am one of those Femme's that's attracted to fella's with Feminist values and are confident in themselves to let me lead the relationship.

That kinda person if fucking HAWT!
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That's what I absolutely love about this place, Snow. We can all come in with different likes and dislikes and we all have a place to come and talk about it. That rawks.


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everybody who keeps talking about and being supportive of a 'june cleaver lifestyle'............

Did any of you actually LIVE during the 50's? I did. It was oppressive, sexist with some misogyny tossed in and certainly the 50's had little to do with June and Ward, Ozzie and Harriet or Father Knows Best. Hell of a time to grow up as a girl........even as a boy
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Did any of you actually LIVE during the 50's? I did. It was oppressive, sexist with some misogyny tossed in and certainly the 50's had little to do with June and Ward, Ozzie and Harriet or Father Knows Best. Hell of a time to grow up as a girl........even as a boy
I'm sorry your life wasn't pleasent then...my family was dysfunctional no matter what decade they were in....lol....but let's just say I miss manners, courtesy, gentleness, education, family time at dinner, less crime, more overall trust & honesty.

At least that is what I experienced. I belive that common courtesy & manners should ALWAYS be exhibited in life no matter what year. I believe that gentlemanly actions & manners are lacking a lot now days....as in common politeness & courtesy.

No the '50's may not have been perfect, you're right.....but, they did have some things I miss now days. It's a shame that these things are referred to as "old time' values & traits.

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I'm sorry your life wasn't pleasent then...my family was dysfunctional no matter what decade they were in....lol....but let's just say I miss manners, courtesy, gentleness, education, family time at dinner, less crime, more overall trust & honesty.

At least that is what I experienced. I belive that common courtesy & manners should ALWAYS be exhibited in life no matter what year. I believe that gentlemanly actions & manners are lacking a lot now days....as in common politeness & courtesy.

No the '50's may not have been perfect, you're right.....but, they did have some things I miss now days. It's a shame that these things are referred to as "old time' values & traits.

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Manners, courtesy are not gender nor time specific, I feel that to be a very popular misconception when it comes to the "Cleavers" reference.

I won't even go into the whole racism, classism issues with the Cleavers.
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Manners, courtesy are not gender nor time specific, I feel that to be a very popular misconception when it comes to the "Cleavers" reference.

I won't even go into the whole racism, classism issues with the Cleavers.
Is tht we ALL get to agree with what's right for us & we ALL get a voice & we ALL deserve to be allowed to do such...at least in this venue...yes?

I find manners & courtesy are SORELY lacking nowdays....maybe people don't have time for them? Or maybe people are SO selfish it doesn't occur or matter to them...but, you are right they are not & should not be time or gender specific..<smile>

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Actually it started like this.


I don't balk, the people I date/own/fuck aren't stable...


Hence my post after those particular posts.


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I, like others, agree that it's an energy thing.

But I also have to say that I have been treated the absolute best out of any relationships by the FtMs that I have dated.

They seem to understand and "get" the June Cleaver lifestyle. They respect it. They don't balk at many of the common courtesies. Doors get held open, chairs pulled back, Ma'am is said...

At the end of the day, it's just who I am attracted to.
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Yes indeed....it's how I believe it should be....thanks for noticing when we do it...<smile>....
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Hmm, I am one of those Femme's that's attracted to fella's with Feminist values and are confident in themselves to let me lead the relationship.

That kinda person if fucking HAWT!
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I'm sorry your life wasn't pleasent then...my family was dysfunctional no matter what decade they were in....lol....but let's just say I miss manners, courtesy, gentleness, education, family time at dinner, less crime, more overall trust & honesty.

At least that is what I experienced. I belive that common courtesy & manners should ALWAYS be exhibited in life no matter what year. I believe that gentlemanly actions & manners are lacking a lot now days....as in common politeness & courtesy.

No the '50's may not have been perfect, you're right.....but, they did have some things I miss now days. It's a shame that these things are referred to as "old time' values & traits.

Jonathan
I never said my life was unpleasant. I had a great childhood with a relatively functional family.

I saw as many bad manners and lack of a family time at dinner and lack of common courtesy etc among my friend's families as I saw among other friend's mannered families. June and Ward were not the norm in the 50's anymore than bad manners are the norm in the 21st century.
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