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			Bumpin' this one again...   
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
		
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			 I once dated a mtfperson beforeshe had any surgeries. I treated her the same as any other person I ever dated. She decided to tell me on our 1st date. She was uncomfortable about sex & I totally respected her decision. Honestly she was one of the best people I ever dated. She was beautiful, funny, sexy, & more open to discussion than alot of people who are comfortable with their bodies... :-)  | 
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			I can't really explain the attraction in words. It's an energy thing. There's a certain energy trans guys have that I'm drawn to like a magnet. And sometimes I don't even know right away or they don't. I have two exes who have both transitioned but identified as butch women when I dated them. *shrugs and laughs* Go fig!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I also had two ex's who started as butch when we began dating and I was with them when they began transitioning. There is just something about their energy that just gets to me; I cant describe it but its the attitude, the swagger, the way they carry themselves and are proud of who they are - I'm very attracted to FTM's  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
		
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			Ok, my turn. I have ALWAYS known I was seriously attracted to the "butchiest", hardest partners/dates I could find and later came to know and call them ftms. I absolutely adore/ enjoy/want an ftm that is comfortable in their own skin and identity to partner with.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Don't get me wrong. I have helped 2 people in different stages of transitioning and absolutely would help someone else in their incredible journey to find themselves and be happy. While I never really thought of myself as a "lesbian" per se, I have come to accept that some ignorant people will label me this no matter what. The reason I am attracted and want to partner with an ftm is complex in itself. I am attracted to the confidence, maturity, swaggar, energy. I absolutely love kissing my partner in public and when some ignorant ass gawks or looks wondering "could it be?" "Is that a girl and a guy" type crap, I just smile and know in my heart it doesn't matter what the people think. I am happy with who I am and hy is happy with me! I love the energy and time put into getting ready to go out and I can not stress enough how much I love the bowchickawowwow dance! The time taken. The respect of boundaries. Knowing in my heart and mind that I "get it" and understand that sometimes the mind doesn't always match the body. The exact same things that make it "taboo" in others' eyes are a turn on for me! I crave it! Want it! Need it! Not just anyone has this. Only those who are secure and honest enough to live their own life for their own happiness. That makes me smile... 
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			I, like others, agree that it's an energy thing. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			But I also have to say that I have been treated the absolute best out of any relationships by the FtMs that I have dated. They seem to understand and "get" the June Cleaver lifestyle. They respect it. They don't balk at many of the common courtesies. Doors get held open, chairs pulled back, Ma'am is said... At the end of the day, it's just who I am attracted to. 
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 Sadly, I let go of my confidence and my identity due to something we are not allowed to talk about in the forums... But regardless of the reason, I have found myself again and have my confidence and energy back.  | 
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			I need to specify that I am not talking about her holding doors open for me... I mean other things... femme-type things... I don't expect the femme I am with to make me dinner, but if she does I am very grateful and appreciative... I'll even do the dishes! LOL
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I'm very attracted to FTM's  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			They seem to understand and "get" the June Cleaver lifestyle. They respect it. They don't balk at many of the common courtesies. Doors get held open, chairs pulled back, Ma'am is said...  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Yes indeed....it's how I believe it should be....thanks for noticing when we do it...<smile>....  | 
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			Hmm, I am one of those Femme's that's attracted to fella's with Feminist values and are confident in themselves to let me lead the relationship. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			That kinda person if fucking HAWT! 
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			everybody who keeps talking about and being supportive of a 'june cleaver lifestyle'............ 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Did any of you actually LIVE during the 50's? I did. It was oppressive, sexist with some misogyny tossed in and certainly the 50's had little to do with June and Ward, Ozzie and Harriet or Father Knows Best. Hell of a time to grow up as a girl........even as a boy 
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 At least that is what I experienced. I belive that common courtesy & manners should ALWAYS be exhibited in life no matter what year. I believe that gentlemanly actions & manners are lacking a lot now days....as in common politeness & courtesy. No the '50's may not have been perfect, you're right.....but, they did have some things I miss now days. It's a shame that these things are referred to as "old time' values & traits. Jonathan  | 
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 Manners, courtesy are not gender nor time specific, I feel that to be a very popular misconception when it comes to the "Cleavers" reference. I won't even go into the whole racism, classism issues with the Cleavers. 
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