2012 US General Election Discussions: Start to Finish

[Martina]

Listening to yesterday's Rachel Maddow show. Rachel went on a rant about Romney being willing to say any damned thing and then not correcting it when the truth is pointed out. Like saying that Jeep is going to close down and go to China.

Anyway, Rachel:

"It’s ok for your uncle who watches Fox News all day and yells at the TV to say, 'I saw that story somewhere.' But when you want to be President of the United States, you can’t keep proving that your first line of intelligence is the suffocating oxygen-free right wing blogosphere . . . . Stuff is not true just because you read it somewhere."

[BullDog]

Originally Posted by Martina

Listening to yesterday's Rachel Maddow show. Rachel went on a rant about Romney being willing to say any damned thing and then not correcting it when the truth is pointed out. Like saying that Jeep is going to close down and go to China.

Anyway, Rachel:

"It’s ok for your uncle who watches Fox News all day and yells at the TV to say, 'I saw that story somewhere.' But when you want to President of the United States, you can’t keep proving that your first line of intelligence is the suffocating oxygen-free right wing blogosphere . . . . Stuff is not true just because you read it somewhere."

One of the most maddening things about all his lies is even when reporters or others find out he's lying, he tells his lies in front of big crowds- the debates, campaign speeches. The corrections are heard by much smaller audiences. So he gets away with murder.

[Martina]

Slight dip for Obama today, and now the storm.

Wondering how this will affect the ground game and then actual voting.

[DapperButch]

You know, there are moments when I am really, genuinely terrified as to what will happen if Romney wins office.

I mean, he is SCARY. Seriously. It is WHO he is that terrifies me the most. Not what he says, not what he thinks...it is actually the fact that we DON'T know what he think that is the really scary thing. Those kind of people are the dangerous ones.

Of one things I am certain...it can NOT good for women, POC, or the poor in our country.

Even his smile is creepy.

Yes, I know that I am speaking to the choir here, but does anyone else have those terrifying moments where it really REALLY hits them?

At least we knew with George W. he was an idiot...but Romney is way smart and due to that has more of any ability to do more damaging things...things that will set women WAY back...a very dangerous man he is.

[Kätzchen]

I cannot resist tonight and feel compelled to say what's on my mind... not only about the election, but the Press.

I will be *so* upset if Romney is voted into office - especially in light of past issues with voter balloting issues (fraud, tampering, intimidation, et al). Worse, it would appear that there is not one single person of executive power who will call out this type of blatant (or in some cases, it's well hidden) case of what I feel is a civil rights related issue. I wish it wasn't the end of my day so I could find the term I really want to use that describes this situation perfectly, but apparently I am tired.

But more importantly, this is what bothers me just as much as the former issue concerning Romney: It's that the Press seems to not care how news is reported or what constitutes news, in and of itself, or even prioritizing their news content in terms of not only reporting on election issues (as well as news in general) that is of paramount importance to every single person who lives within the jurisdiction of the US, but in terms of providing news that is honest, credible, legitimate and not what the news has been offering up as 'news.'

I find it unconscienable (did I spell that right?) that the public in general, it would seem, does not feel compelled to hold the journalistic press corps to a standard that is above reproach and that it would appear that counter-news agencies seem to not call out major corps press members for their less than stellar performance in news reporting.

I feel that the press and other social media outlets are culpable in manipulating press releases and publishing them as bonafide, legitimate, credible sources of news (information). I can't tell you how many times I have called into an editors desk and launched my own disapproval of their so-called process as a way of taking action; and encouraging others I know here at home, to make calls or write letters to Editors of news periodicals/publications, as well.

[Martina]

Slight bump for Obama today. Living and dying by these polls is ridiculous, but I do it to an extent.

I keep reading people saying that independents tend to break late for Republicans and that there is polling to show that they are breaking for Romney.

I also hear that they think turnout is going to be low -- unrelated to the storm. That's bad too for Dems.

Are there trends in the polls, or are people just steeling themselves in case the worst happens?

Those pictures of Obama with Gov. Christie and the folks from New Jersey have to help.

Re the battleground states, I was worried about Pennsylvania, but it looks like there wasn't that much flood damage. Fuck Virginia. If we win it, good. If not, meh. I don't think much hinges on it (though what do I know?) But it would be a blow to lose PA. New York and New Jersey are ours. If the vote turned out otherwise, it would have to be related to storm related errors. So, just give us those electoral votes and let those folks concentrate on digging out and drying out.

I can't wait for this damned election to be over.

[Slater]

My happy thought of the day is that Romney's position on FEMA could cost him Florida. It has been a dead heat there and talk like that has to scare the crap out of them. If Obama wins Florida, it's game over.