Denying Children cause Parents are Lesbians

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Originally Posted by dreadgeek

Oh I can think of one off the top of my head: if it's a Jesuit run school the kids WILL get a good education. Will their heads be filled with a lot of religious flimflam? Yes. However, the parts that are *not* a muddle of hogwash and mumbo jumbo will be top-shelf, first class, education.

There are times I WISH I had gone to a Jesuitical school as a kid--not for the theology, of course, but because the kids I knew who did were very well educated. The Jesuits have been at the business of educating youth since, what, the Middle Ages and are very, very good at what they do.

They also happen to be superb at indoctrination but just the emphasis on casuistry (case-based moral reasoning) is, to my mind, worth the risk because it teaches people how to think about reasoning.

Cheers
Aj

Nods, Nods...

My son went to a catholic hs run by Jesuits... They knew he was agnostic, they knew his parents were lesbians... He was allowed to bring his male best friend as his date to the prom..(His best friend went to public school) He was required to attend high masses, but did not have to attend daily mass. He was required to take the standard catholic history/tenents class as well as world religion classes.

They taught him how to think.. They didn't just prep him for the next test, but taught him how to learn...

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by Ms Cyn

Nods, Nods...

My son went to a catholic hs run by Jesuits... They knew he was agnostic, they knew his parents were lesbians... He was allowed to bring his male best friend as his date to the prom..(His best friend went to public school) He was required to attend high masses, but did not have to attend daily mass. He was required to take the standard catholic history/tenents class as well as world religion classes.

They taught him how to think.. They didn't just prep him for the next test, but taught him how to learn...

Precisely right. I wish, oh how I wish, that the public schools were dedicated to the idea that the job of the teacher isn't to prep students for the next test, it's to teach people how to learn and how to be citizens and not just consumers. If we learned about citizenship, what it entails, why it matters, I think we would be a different and better nation.

Both the left and the right in America miss the boat, I think with the issues of education and citizenship. The left has, at best, an ambiguous relationship to promoting the idea that one is a citizen and that this is something meaningful. The right believes in citizenship but what is meant by the right is more along the lines of nationalism than what I have in mind.

Cheers
Aj

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Originally Posted by dreadgeek

Precisely right. I wish, oh how I wish, that the public schools were dedicated to the idea that the job of the teacher isn't to prep students for the next test, it's to teach people how to learn and how to be citizens and not just consumers. If we learned about citizenship, what it entails, why it matters, I think we would be a different and better nation.

Both the left and the right in America miss the boat, I think with the issues of education and citizenship. The left has, at best, an ambiguous relationship to promoting the idea that one is a citizen and that this is something meaningful. The right believes in citizenship but what is meant by the right is more along the lines of nationalism than what I have in mind.

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Aj

Nods.. Creighton Preps moto is.. *Building Men for Others who serve and seek justice in our local, national, and international communities*

The entire public school system needs a complete over haul.. No child left behind has failed on such a massive level.. Forget about learning.. Teach only what the kid needs to pass the next test... Forget about actually preparing a child to think and live.. When Annie was in the states, she was horrified at the way teachers were expected to teach..

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by Ms Cyn

Nods.. Creighton Preps moto is.. *Building Men for Others who serve and seek justice in our local, national, and international communities*

The entire public school system needs a complete over haul.. No child left behind has failed on such a massive level.. Forget about learning.. Teach only what the kid needs to pass the next test... Forget about actually preparing a child to think and live.. When Annie was in the states, she was horrified at the way teachers were expected to teach..

My father, before he died 10 years ago, spent 40 years of his life in education. Ten of it as a secondary school teacher, ten more as a Vice principal and 20 more as a professor of teacher education. I remember listening to he and my mother (also a college professor) talk about schools, their students and how education was changing and not for the better. Growing up in that environment I became an adult with an outlook on education that might justifiably be called romantic. I believe, deep in my bones, that education is the key to liberation. By education, I mean something far beyond knowing facts and figures. It's *how* to think about things, how to know the contents of one's own mind and a grounding in both basic science literacy and basic cultural literacy (art, music, poetry, theatre). This was what my parents saw their mission was: not to fill their students heads with facts for regurgitation but with a thirst for knowledge and understanding that was voracious. All the rest was details.

Cheers
Aj

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Originally Posted by dreadgeek

My father, before he died 10 years ago, spent 40 years of his life in education. Ten of it as a secondary school teacher, ten more as a Vice principal and 20 more as a professor of teacher education. I remember listening to he and my mother (also a college professor) talk about schools, their students and how education was changing and not for the better. Growing up in that environment I became an adult with an outlook on education that might justifiably be called romantic. I believe, deep in my bones, that education is the key to liberation. By education, I mean something far beyond knowing facts and figures. It's *how* to think about things, how to know the contents of one's own mind and a grounding in both basic science literacy and basic cultural literacy (art, music, poetry, theatre). This was what my parents saw their mission was: not to fill their students heads with facts for regurgitation but with a thirst for knowledge and understanding that was voracious. All the rest was details.

Cheers
Aj

Exactly...

My son spent most of last summer in Baltimore with his sister.. She wanted to expose him to the *world of thought* (She is in her Dr. program at Johns Hopkins in Nuclear Physics) before he went into the military.. Lol.. I was hoping that by spending time with her he might change his mind and go to college.. I think that a envirment that encourages that thirst and hunger for knowledge is absolutly an essential part of living... Sigh.. trying to make my son live my dream...

Sigh.. to me.. that would be paradise..

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Yet Another Catholic School Rejects Student Because Of Lezmos