In Celebration of Butch Femininity

[BullDog]

Originally Posted by *Anya*

Kernerman English Learner's Dictionary

lesbian(noun)ˈlɛz bi ən
a woman who is sexually attracted to other women

Wiktionary

lesbian(Noun)
A homosexual female, a female who is sexually or romantically attracted to other females.
lesbian(Adjective)
Homosexual; preferring female romantic or sexual partners.

A non-chest-pounding lesbian here.

Honestly, I had been feeling really good about the acceptance I was feeling on the Planet for everyone the last few months.

For everyone.

Tapu, *Anya* posted the above textbook definition earlier which you already quoted, but here it is again.

I would say this holds true a majority of the time in the world at large not as much in butch femme circles.

There are quite a number of femme lesbians who are partnered with/date male id/trans men. They still call themselves lesbians but are not strictly "women loving women." Just one example, and they have their own reasons and personal connections for why they id as lesbian.

People id with lesbian in different ways. For some, it strictly speaks to sexual orientation, for some perhaps to gender, for others community- either they have related to lesbian communities in the past and/or do so now.

For me, it is about sexual orientation (I am a butch woman attracted to femme women) and community (I have friendships and ties to real world community). I don't really like of lesbian as gender for myself really. I think of my gender as butch, but I often feel I have to qualify it with woman, lesbian and stone butch to be understood.

I don't think it is a good idea to define lesbian based on body parts. First of all, not to reduce us to body parts and second of all because in this community people relate to their physical bodies and genitals in different ways. So what I have downstairs might be anatomically the same as someone else but they might relate to it entirely different, yet we could still both be lesbians, or not.

[BullDog]

sorry can't edit, but my above post I meant I don't really think of lesbian as my gender (not like).

[lamuymuyfem]

Originally Posted by BullDog

Tapu, *Anya* posted the above textbook definition earlier which you already quoted, but here it is again.

I would say this holds true a majority of the time in the world at large not as much in butch femme circles.

There are quite a number of femme lesbians who are partnered with/date male id/trans men. They still call themselves lesbians but are not strictly "women loving women." Just one example, and they have their own reasons and personal connections for why they id as lesbian.

People id with lesbian in different ways. For some, it strictly speaks to sexual orientation, for some perhaps to gender, for others community- either they have related to lesbian communities in the past and/or do so now.

For me, it is about sexual orientation (I am a butch woman attracted to femme women) and community (I have friendships and ties to real world community). I don't really like of lesbian as gender for myself really. I think of my gender as butch, but I often feel I have to qualify it with woman, lesbian and stone butch to be understood.

I don't think it is a good idea to define lesbian based on body parts. First of all, not to reduce us to body parts and second of all because in this community people relate to their physical bodies and genitals in different ways. So what I have downstairs might be anatomically the same as someone else but they might relate to it entirely different, yet we could still both be lesbians, or not.

This planet is my big opportunity to explore my feelings about IDing as lesbian when I was dating an FtM…..so thanks to everybody who talks openly about that. No more shrinking planets, please….

[BullDog]

lamuymuyfem, good to hear. Whatever feels good to you and makes you feel comfortable in your skin. That is what is important. Welcome to BFP.