It's Time to Boycott Arizona

Toughy · 04-25-2010, 09:31 PM

There is no sane reason to send US or UN troops to Mexico.....to even suggest that speaks to hegemony, American Exceptionalism, white privilege, blah blah blah...just because we have a history of intervening, with military force, in other countries business is not an excuse for anything....Last I heard...........Mexico is not requesting military intervention from anyone.........

Stop. The. War. On. Drugs. Stop it NOW. Legalize all those drugs.......pot, white powder, brown/black powder/sticky stuff.....legalize all drugs........stop the CIA from secretly financing all those black ops by way of the drug trade of mostly opium and heroin..........no sane US citizen buys mexican dirt weed....we grow much better pot here....laughin....

As I said before........talking about the illegal drug trade and the violence around it, is THE red herring of immigration reform. Those things are not connected at all......

Toughy · 04-25-2010, 09:37 PM

killing a whole bunch of folks on both sides IS NOT the answer...................

the drug trade across the southern border is a police issue.....the war on terror and the war on drugs needs to go away.....terrorism/drug&human trafficking is not a military battle............it's a police battle.......

military troops and/or war is never ever ever the answer for drug/human trafficking and terrorism............these are matters best handled by law enforcement and courts..

Rook · 04-25-2010, 10:04 PM

I'm a little confused here..
Last time I checked, we had a Canadian border as well..
If for whatever reason, Obama suffered a brainfart and agreed to military enforcement, at least on our side of the Border with Mexico, what makes you think Drug pushers/human traffickers/Gun Smugglers won't just try a different Venue {if they're not already doing it}, Saskatchewan, Manitoba & British Columbia seem to have big enough borders to try stuff, no?
Then of course, there's the Pacific Coast, East Coast, Gulf of Mexico coast...
If you think they won't bother figuring how to smuggle things by Water, you need to spend some time on the East coast and west coast of Puerto Rico, Jamaica & Dominican Republic/Haiti...
So, what you're suggesting is, Military presence at all these Borders?
I think I've seen that somewhere...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Demilitarized_Zone

Rockinonahigh · 04-25-2010, 11:27 PM

Please note, I never said we should go to war..I stated that in my post.I come from a military family with many years of service,so I know what war can do..its bad plane and simple.I hope that one day we will never have another one and someone will finlaly get that we need to have peaceful world.
I also said that if my family was in danger I would do what ever it takes to get them out of harms way.This new law is causeing lots of probs and will cause more.I hope its put down and our goverment steps up to the plate and fixes this issue.Do NOT ever put words in my mouth I didnt say.I just hope other states dont follow this example.

Canela · 04-26-2010, 12:49 AM

I gotta speak.

What a heinous thing Brewer has done. I am definitely boycotting Arizona...was going out there this summer for a family reunion but now, I don't think so...My family and I are visibly hispanic, you think I'm going to take a chance with my kids?

One more thing---
Come live in the Rio Grande Valley for a month, smack dab in the middle of the cartel wars. See what it's like. Then if you want you can say we don't need any militia presence here (US) to defend our borders. (We are US, too.) There isn't enough law enforcement for the crazy, horrible things going on out here...you have no idea...who's going to jump in? The minutemen left early on...guess even gun permits didn't give them balls to handle this...yes, I said balls...

And don't get me started on legalizing drugs. That's just not an option. Look around. How many people do you know right now that use/abuse ANY illegal substance(s)? I bet you know several...we all do...you really want to make it easier for them to use? Really? Wow.

Please dont' speak for us out here. Don't even take my word for it...come on down...okay, at least check out the AP stories in your local bigcity paper. Then look up www.TheMonitor.com and see on a daily basis the things that are really happening out here...

I may be back...

UofMfan · 04-26-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleShug

I gotta speak.

What a heinous thing Brewer has done. I am definitely boycotting Arizona...was going out there this summer for a family reunion but now, I don't think so...My family and I are visibly hispanic, you think I'm going to take a chance with my kids?

One more thing---
Come live in the Rio Grande Valley for a month, smack dab in the middle of the cartel wars. See what it's like. Then if you want you can say we don't need any militia presence here (US) to defend our borders. (We are US, too.) There isn't enough law enforcement for the crazy, horrible things going on out here...you have no idea...who's going to jump in? The minutemen left early on...guess even gun permits didn't give them balls to handle this...yes, I said balls...

And don't get me started on legalizing drugs. That's just not an option. Look around. How many people do you know right now that use/abuse ANY illegal substance(s)? I bet you know several...we all do...you really want to make it easier for them to use? Really? Wow.

Please dont' speak for us out here. Don't even take my word for it...come on down...okay, at least check out the AP stories in your local bigcity paper. Then look up www.TheMonitor.com and see on a daily basis the things that are really happening out here...

I may be back...

It is one thing to have US troops in US territory, quite another to suggest they be sent INTO Mexico.

I am well aware of what is happening there.

As for the legalization issue, I think I read somewhere that it should be discussed in a separate thread. I am game, anyone else?

weatherboi · 04-26-2010, 02:02 PM

i am totally up for the discussion of decrimializing marijuana

Quote:

Originally Posted by UofMfan

It is one thing to have US troops in US territory, quite another to suggest they be sent INTO Mexico.

I am well aware of what is happening there.

As for the legalization issue, I think I read somewhere that it should be discussed in a separate thread. I am game, anyone else?

little man · 04-28-2010, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toughy

There is no sane reason to send US or UN troops to Mexico.....to even suggest that speaks to hegemony, American Exceptionalism, white privilege, blah blah blah...just because we have a history of intervening, with military force, in other countries business is not an excuse for anything....Last I heard...........Mexico is not requesting military intervention from anyone.........

Stop. The. War. On. Drugs. Stop it NOW. Legalize all those drugs.......pot, white powder, brown/black powder/sticky stuff.....legalize all drugs........stop the CIA from secretly financing all those black ops by way of the drug trade of mostly opium and heroin..........no sane US citizen buys mexican dirt weed....we grow much better pot here....laughin....

As I said before........talking about the illegal drug trade and the violence around it, is THE red herring of immigration reform. Those things are not connected at all......

i'e always kind of enjoyed dirt weed. hard to find, though.

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