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Old 04-28-2010, 05:42 PM   #1
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Even when I have traveled abroad, I have not been asked to show my ID when using my Debit or Visa cards. And yet, I have (several times) been in line behind a person of color here in the US and they are asked to show their ID, and, huh. I am not asked.

I insist they ask for purpose of verification. Why else sign the back?
Going through customs when traveling from country to country is not the same to me as traveling from one neighborhood to another in the state you live in.


Again, in foreign countries, you go in showing your ID. You don't go in via the back of a van.
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The problem this country has in keeping track of folks is the many routes taken to enter. I have yet to hear of any American traveling into another country without passport through a sideways manner and then wonder why they got busted.
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The problem this country has in keeping track of folks is the many routes taken to enter. I have yet to hear of any American traveling into another country without passport through a sideways manner and then wonder why they got busted.
Just because you haven't heard it it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

And ask yourself, why would any US citizen want to go into another country through the back door when they can go into virtually any country just with their passports, no visa, nothing?

This is not the same for those who want to enter the US. This is a privilege that few have. Never take it for granted.

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The problem this country has in keeping track of folks is the many routes taken to enter. I have yet to hear of any American traveling into another country without passport through a sideways manner and then wonder why they got busted.
I remember quite vividly during the 1960s young american men making a beeline for the Canadian boarder. Many are still there preferring not to come back to be put in prison.
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i don't want to live in north korea, do you?

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The problem this country has in keeping track of folks is the many routes taken to enter. I have yet to hear of any American traveling into another country without passport through a sideways manner and then wonder why they got busted.
this was pretty big news august, 2009.

Former President Clinton Headed Home from North Korea with Journalists
Clinton Spokesman Says Former President Homebound, with Ling and Lee Onboard.

Former President Bill Clinton ended his surprise trip to North Korea today, bringing home the two Asian-American journalists who had been jailed in the secretive nation, after he helped negotiate their pardons.

Bill Clinton, along with Euna Lee and Laura Ling, touch down at Calif.
Clinton spokesman Matt McKenna verified Tuesday evening that Clinton "has safely left North Korea with Laura Ling and Euna Lee" and was "en route to Los Angeles where Laura and Euna will be reunited with their families."

North Korea's leader Kim Jong-Il today ordered the release of jailed U.S. journalists Laura Ling and Euna Lee through "a special pardon," the country's state-run news agency reported Tuesday.

North Korea's Central News Agency said Clinton took a surprise trip to the country to negotiate Ling and Lee's release apologized for the two female journalists "illegally crossing the border and committing a grave crime against our nation."

Ling and Lee's families said in a joint statement they are "overjoyed by the news of their pardon."

link: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Inter...8245688&page=1
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Again, in foreign countries, you go in showing your ID. You don't go in via the back of a van.
wow that's really racist. what back of who's van? so should we target van-drivers? is there a certain type of van, a particular color of van we should be on the look out for? there's lots of mormon van drivers, do you think they want to be stopped and questioned about who they've got riding in their vehicle?

it's utterly irresponsible and misguided to suggest that racism is okay cuz i'll have some papers to show when i'm stopped, the point is that the bill is racist in nature, the bill already divides a fractured community--it stinks of jim crow laws and nazi germany. being white/passing for white doesn't give anyone the okay to ignore racist legislature--bigotry/hate/suspicion hurts everyone, erodes and divides its people.
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