Trans News/ Issues

Gemme · 06-08-2018, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JDeere

http://www.afterellen.com/general-ne...of-a-drag-show

What do y'all think?

I think the bloodlust is disgusting. Someone doesn't get someone else's identity so the solution is to beat them down the next time they come to the bar? I think that someone should have cooled their heels in a jail cell for that. What's wrong with debate and education?

JDeere · 06-08-2018, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemme

I think the bloodlust is disgusting. Someone doesn't get someone else's identity so the solution is to beat them down the next time they come to the bar? I think that someone should have cooled their heels in a jail cell for that. What's wrong with debate and education?

No clue. I was completely appalled at the whole situation in the article. I still have yet to fully understand.

Wrang1er · 06-08-2018, 08:05 PM

This is the first I have heard of TERF. It's horrible. It seems like hate is rampant these days. I suppose it was always there we just didn't have all the means of hearing about it as we do now.

JDeere · 06-09-2018, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrang1er

This is the first I have heard of TERF. It's horrible. It seems like hate is rampant these days. I suppose it was always there we just didn't have all the means of hearing about it as we do now.

I've known of TERFS for a very long time. Dont like em probably as much as they don't like me but ya know violence only makes shit worse.

*Anya* · 06-09-2018, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JDeere

I've known of TERFS for a very long time. Dont like em probably as much as they don't like me but ya know violence only makes shit worse.

TERFS are what lesbians are called that choose to have relationships with female born women.

They are called that by queer-identified transwomen that believe violence against lesbians that do not have sex with them is called for.

Is that what you mean when you say that you have known TERFS for a long time and don't like them?

TERF is a slur.

Gemme · 06-09-2018, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by *Anya*

TERF is a slur.

I hadn't heard the term before JDeere's article. If the energy that people use to tear others down was collected and applied to positive ventures, do you (general collective you) realize how far we could go as a nation and humankind?

Medusa · 06-09-2018, 08:26 PM

Hold up, folks.

I am getting messages and reports because several folks are very concerned about where this discussion is going...and I am too.

Just to be clear, this thread is a thread for Trans News and Issues. It does not feel safe or fair to have the "TERF" discussion in this thread since that term is being used to describe people who largely identify as Lesbians.

From my own studies, the usage of "TERF" has denoted Lesbians who are "Trans-exclusionary" from their brand of "Radical Feminism", meaning, they DO NOT view MtF's as "real" women. One could make the argument ( and I have seen it in multiple venues) that not seeing Trans women as "real" women is the real reason that Trans-exclusionists don't want to have sex with them.

Do we all agree that nobody of any gender owes sex to another person? God, I hope so. If not, get the fuck off of my site.

I would absolutely be down for having an in-depth, heated, radical discussion about the term "TERF" in the Red Zone, but not here.

Carry on.

Thank you,
Angie

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Wrang1er Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Me, myself and I Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Here Posts: 1,526 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 6,112 Thanked 7,043 Times in 1,354 Posts Rep Power: 21474850	This is the first I have heard of TERF. It's horrible. It seems like hate is rampant these days. I suppose it was always there we just didn't have all the means of hearing about it as we do now.