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Old 07-05-2011, 02:05 PM   #1
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actually the jury pool was put together from across the state in pinellas county...somehow they managed to get a wide array of people instead of the older,retired,military type that tend to live in that part---this is according to the news stuff i heard


so let me ask so i can be clear...are people saying she got off bc of upper,middle classs white ppl on the jury(since the jury didnt come from Orange County)..or that the whites outweighed the black and hispanic on the jury or what.....im truly interested in how race is being brought into it.
Race ALWAYS plays into it, as does money, privilege. I honestly feel had this been a WOC we would not see this much coverage and she would of been found guilty guilty guilty.

How often do you see kids of color this highly publicized, look at the little Latina girl killed by the minute men in Arizona.

No one wept for her, all children should have value.
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Race ALWAYS plays into it, as does money, privilege. I honestly feel had this been a WOC we would not see this much coverage and she would of been found guilty guilty guilty.

How often do you see kids of color this highly publicized, look at the little Latina girl killed by the minute men in Arizona.

No one wept for her, all children should have value.
The Lady Snow, are you referring to the little girl and her father who were recently killed?
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Yes Ma'am... They thought it was a house full of undocumented people. Her name is BRISENIA FLORES, they were found guilty but the case was not highly publicized, her Papi was also killed his name is Raul Junior Flores.
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Yes Ma'am... They thought it was a house full of undocumented people. Her name is BRISENIA FLORES, they were found guilty but the case was not highly publicized, her Papi was also killed his name is Raul Junior Flores.
There wasn't a lot of national attention focused on this incident, but there sure was here in Tucson. I participated in a local candle light vigil and I know there were many demonstrations that took place over the weeks following their murders. The woman in charge of the killings had clear mental health issues. The whole thing upsets me to no end.
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Juror: Casey Anthony verdict was the right one
Prosecution failed to prove murder beyond reasonable doubt, alternate juror says, but admits questions remain unanswered


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One thing that strikes me with this man's thoughts is about "no motive" being presented by the prosecution. Motive is NOT required to be supplied by the prosecution to prove guilt. Yet, so many jury verdicts hang on motive. Big mistake not to address motive in cases, I think even when it isn't necessary. Most people want to know the "Why?".
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Well....I don't think she cares about having a productive life.

As she showed us pretty clearly in those 31 days...she wants to party, she wants to dance, she wants to get lots of attention.

Productive or meaningful..... *meh*....I doubt she cares.

And, unfortunately, there will be plenty of folks waiting to give her money, hear her story, buy her a drink, put her on TV, etc.

It's sickening, but I don't think that most narcissists look at life the way you or I do.

If she wanted meaningful and productive....she had it as a mother...and look how she handled that.

I'm with Snow....any publisher, magazine or TV station that gives her a minute of air time will be hearing (negatively) from me....and not getting my money.
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Excellent idea, The Lady Snow! I will be doing exactly the same thing!
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I'm with you. I didn't even buy the damn book that Scott Petersen's (is it sen or son?) half sister wrote- and she is local. The jerk stayed at her house in Berkeley before booking to So Cal and his arrest.

People can be such opportunists- watch, someone that dated her will try to do a book.

The fact of the matter is that a 2 year old child is dead and there seeems to be no justice for her in any shape or form. I hurt about this even though I do see as a matter of law, how the prosecution blew this case. I think the DA's office was far too cocky about this case and did not build a solid circumstantial prosecution due to inflated egos.
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Race ALWAYS plays into it, as does money, privilege. I honestly feel had this been a WOC we would not see this much coverage and she would of been found guilty guilty guilty.

How often do you see kids of color this highly publicized, look at the little Latina girl killed by the minute men in Arizona.

No one wept for her, all children should have value.
Snow..i hope you dont mind that i address this post and you personally. i just think i could understand your explanation better than a lot of others.

Perhaps its my white privilege coming into play bc i dont see it...i mean if race is ALWAYS a part of it would you (general) say that race played a part in OJ getting off? Scott Peterson was white and was convicted by a predominantly white jury...

i truly wanna see what others see as far as the race thing goes,but im having a hard time bc ive seen it goes both ways...again that might just be my white privilege and upbringing

Sadly i did not hear about the latina girl....

i will admit it is sad that more attention is not given to all kids whom have been harmed or killed--regardless of race....

as for the % i would/will do some research and see how it varies


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new post to add i forgot Snow had said money and privilege as well so i understand the OJ thing..
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Snow..i hope you dont mind that i address this post and you personally. i just think i could understand your explanation better than a lot of others.

Perhaps its my white privilege coming into play bc i dont see it...i mean if race is ALWAYS a part of it would you (general) say that race played a part in OJ getting off? Scott Peterson was white and was convicted by a predominantly white jury...

i truly wanna see what others see as far as the race thing goes,but im having a hard time bc ive seen it goes both ways...again that might just be my white privilege and upbringing

Sadly i did not hear about the latina girl....

i will admit it is sad that more attention is not given to all kids whom have been harmed or killed--regardless of race....

as for the % i would/will do some research and see how it varies


thanks in advance!
The question of race is Always a issue. Oscar Grant! The question you might asks yourself is the same question you asked Snow. Find the answer by doing research, read books, go to events the talk about the race. A good book to start with is, "THE NEW JIM CROW" by Michelle Alexandar. She breaks it down in a way that folks get it. This case would not have been in the media if the players were folks of color.How do I know this? history.
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