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Old 08-24-2011, 03:12 PM   #1
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Yeah, for sure it's complicated. That's why I wanted to hear from a range of people. I know there's no singular butch or trans identity. I'm just interested in taking a general survey of opinions to see what others think.
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Old 08-24-2011, 08:23 PM   #2
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Yeah, for sure it's complicated. That's why I wanted to hear from a range of people. I know there's no singular butch or trans identity. I'm just interested in taking a general survey of opinions to see what others think.
I think that atomiczombie really hit the nail on the head with his post.

To answer the question in the simplest form... There is no place where butch ends and transman begins, they are separate identities...until they no longer are.

In terms of butch always equaling woman/female, as atomic said, many would argue that. Some would say that "in the beginning", butch = woman/female. Some would argue that. Depends are where you were/are/what you read about "the beginning".
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In the beginning there was the Human, somewhere along the line we all wanted to be special, and voila gender markers, sexual preferences, linear thinking. Till one day we all jump off the line and return to the circle where we are all equal, special in our own right, and relate to each other the way we are want to be called.
Gender is a construct of the human mind, it is not our sex, or our end of being, except when it is, and then if we want.
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