Boy Scouts of America: Is it appropriate to educate a 10 year-old that's soliciting funds for that kind of organization?

tapu · 09-27-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Julie

No Tapu!

That was part of my explanation to J. Mason regarding "I just see a problem with trying to tell a parent about the situation you never know what you are going to encounter."

If we stand SILENT - then I believe this is where we are headed.

Julie

I'm sorry, I don't get the difference. Taking a Silence = Death stance would mean confronting the parent, right?

Ah! You thought I meant that you were advocating SAYING it. No, I meant going at it in that way--confronting the parent.

Julie · 09-27-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tapu

I'm sorry, I don't get the difference. Taking a Silence + Death stance would mean confronting the parent, right?

First of all.
It is SILENCE = DEATH
If I keep my mouth shut - Then I am supporting discrimination. Ignorance breeds Hate - Hate breeds Death. I believe this.

I believe there is a difference between confronting and discussing.
I have given my reasons to both parents of the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts as to why I will not financially support their organization.

I have never been met with anger or rudeness. Most often, I have been met with surprise and sadness.

It is an awakening for the ignorant.

Julie

tapu · 09-27-2011, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julie

First of all.
It is SILENCE = DEATH
If I keep my mouth shut - Then I am supporting discrimination. Ignorance breeds Hate - Hate breeds Death. I believe this.

I believe there is a difference between confronting and discussing.
I have given my reasons to both parents of the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts as to why I will not financially support their organization.

I have never been met with anger or rudeness. Most often, I have been met with surprise and sadness.

It is an awakening for the ignorant.

Julie

I'm sorry, I hit the caps key. I have corrected my error.

The_Lady_Snow · 09-27-2011, 10:50 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/us/14explorers.html

Chancie · 09-27-2011, 04:46 PM

I posted last year about being invited to a student's Eagle Scout ceremony.

I was incredibly flattered and moved to be invited, but

I ultimately chose not to attend because of the Boy Scouts' discriminatory policy and practices.

I do know that there are some troops that have distanced themselves from BSA, and that is incredibly brave.

I don't donate to United Way, because they give money to Scouts and I have no way of knowing where the money is going.

To answer the question, I would not sign the petition but

I would not explain why unless the child asked, and then I would explain in child appropriate language.

princessbelle · 09-27-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chancie

I posted last year about being invited to a student's Eagle Scout ceremony.

I was incredibly flattered and moved to be invited, but

I ultimately chose not to attend because of the Boy Scouts' discriminatory policy and practices.

I do know that there are some troops that have distanced themselves from BSA, and that is incredibly brave.

I don't donate to United Way, because they give money to Scouts and I have no way of knowing where the money is going.

To answer the question, I would not sign the petition but

I would not explain why unless the child asked, and then I would explain in child appropriate language.

OHhhhhhhhhhhh i remember that Chancie. I do. I do. Time flies.

I was a boyscout leader as well. True story. But that was eons ago and i was in a heterosexual relationship and was living the "straight life" with all the straight life privileges. So i didn't even think about it at the time. My ex husband was an eagle and we were very involved in the local group.

Now my kids are all grown. Was so so long ago. It would certainly be a different/difficult situation with my current way of life. My heart is out to you Tapu and all that you are doing for the kids. It is not an easy job. But, rewarding. I'm happy that you are able to be out and not feel threatened.

Rock on!!!

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Maybe. (Please elaborate.)	2	5.71%
Yes, explain to him and his mother why I won't participate.	8	22.86%
Yes, explain to the child directly why I won't participate.	5	14.29%
Ask permission from his mother to talk to him about the issue.	2	5.71%
Take my issue to the grocery store since he's on their property.	1	2.86%
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Chancie Senior Member How Do You Identify?: queer femme-inist Relationship Status: I'm lucky. Join Date: May 2010 Location: Western Mass Posts: 3,774 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,518 Thanked 14,540 Times in 2,744 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	I posted last year about being invited to a student's Eagle Scout ceremony. I was incredibly flattered and moved to be invited, but I ultimately chose not to attend because of the Boy Scouts' discriminatory policy and practices. I do know that there are some troops that have distanced themselves from BSA, and that is incredibly brave. I don't donate to United Way, because they give money to Scouts and I have no way of knowing where the money is going. To answer the question, I would not sign the petition but I would not explain why unless the child asked, and then I would explain in child appropriate language.