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[persiphone]

Originally Posted by Ebon

The only one of those I haven't seen is deconstructing supper. I'll check it out tomorrow if it's on Netflix along with that 1% doco.

and don't forget The End Of The Line. great flick. very depressing.

[Sachita]

Originally Posted by persiphone

and don't forget The End Of The Line. great flick. very depressing.

Is that the one about factory farming? Its too hard for me to watch these. I do, however drive and buy pasture grass fed meats. I don't eat meat often but when I do...

But you know a lot of people can watch the docs, cry, bitch and get upset but a week later still spend three days a week in a drive thru or buying steaks at sam's club. The truth is you love only the animals you can see and touch.

[persiphone]

Originally Posted by Sachita

Is that the one about factory farming? Its too hard for me to watch these. I do, however drive and buy pasture grass fed meats. I don't eat meat often but when I do...

But you know a lot of people can watch the docs, cry, bitch and get upset but a week later still spend three days a week in a drive thru or buying steaks at sam's club. The truth is you love only the animals you can see and touch.

End Of The Line is about the state of our ocean fish supply and yeah i lost sleep over it. the result of that movie for me is that now i will only purchase alaskan seafood and some stuff off the coast of oregon that i can get local. but that's it. i will eat nothing else and i stopped going to sushi bars. it's pretty skeery.

on a side note....."grass fed beef" is often what they call "finished" in a feed lot. so it completely defeats the purpose. i just recently learned this myself (about a year ago) and i was kinda pissed cuz here i thought i was buying the right meat. you're not completely safe with any meat you buy in any retail store unless it's certified organic period. otherwise....you're basically paying higher prices for the exact same shit. oh, and "grass fed" doesn't specifiy just how LONG they were grass fed before hitting the feed lot, either. i thought that was interesting. so they could be grass fed for the first 6 months of their lives and then spend the rest of their lives on a feed lot and still be marketed as "grass fed" or they could spend a year being grass fed and spend the last year on a feed lot. it's complete and utter bullshit that makes me madder than hell. cuz the public doesn't know and that's just wrong

[Sachita]

Originally Posted by persiphone

End Of The Line is about the state of our ocean fish supply and yeah i lost sleep over it. the result of that movie for me is that now i will only purchase alaskan seafood and some stuff off the coast of oregon that i can get local. but that's it. i will eat nothing else and i stopped going to sushi bars. it's pretty skeery.

on a side note....."grass fed beef" is often what they call "finished" in a feed lot. so it completely defeats the purpose. i just recently learned this myself (about a year ago) and i was kinda pissed cuz here i thought i was buying the right meat. you're not completely safe with any meat you buy in any retail store unless it's certified organic period. otherwise....you're basically paying higher prices for the exact same shit. oh, and "grass fed" doesn't specifiy just how LONG they were grass fed before hitting the feed lot, either. i thought that was interesting. so they could be grass fed for the first 6 months of their lives and then spend the rest of their lives on a feed lot and still be marketed as "grass fed" or they could spend a year being grass fed and spend the last year on a feed lot. it's complete and utter bullshit that makes me madder than hell. cuz the public doesn't know and that's just wrong

Yes I understand about grass fed and how the popularity has forced cutting corners. I buy my beef from a local farm, have been there and know them. I think that its important to know. But they do feed some organic grain and have good permaculture practices.

[atomiczombie]

Check this out:

http://www.nycga.net/category/minutes/

It's the minutes from the daily General Assemblies at OWS Zucotti Park (Liberty Plaza). This form of consensus building is simple, yet it seems revolutionary when you compare it to the type of "democracy" we are used to here in the US.

[SoNotHer]

I agree, Sachita. I look for beliefs to morph into actions.

Someone mentioned the destruction of the oceans. If you haven't seen Dr. Jeremy Jackson's TED lecture, you should:


[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0VHC1-DO_8"]Jeremy Jackson: How we wrecked the ocean - YouTube[/nomedia]

Originally Posted by Sachita

Is that the one about factory farming? Its too hard for me to watch these. I do, however drive and buy pasture grass fed meats. I don't eat meat often but when I do...

But you know a lot of people can watch the docs, cry, bitch and get upset but a week later still spend three days a week in a drive thru or buying steaks at sam's club. The truth is you love only the animals you can see and touch.

[SoNotHer]

It sounds like a lot of us are talking about the same great ideas about social justice, food miles, compassion and other important issues in this and other threads. I'm sad that we don't live closer. I'm sure we would have a lot of fun sharing dip and chips (organic, local, dairy-free of course :-) and discussions about what moves us and what we want to move forward.

What do you all think about doing this on the Internet? I've attend a couple webinars (for permaculture and shamanic plants). I thought they were terrific experiences. What if a time and day was set up to explore films, lectures, essays and subjects together and talk about them via the chat room or Skype or another venue?

I personally would love it. What do you think?

[Toughy]

The cops shut down Occupy San Jose last night and Occupy Oakland is being told to vacate today.

I was down at Occupy SF today.........they seem to be going strong....about 30-40 tents and lots of tourists taking pictures of them. The cops have barricades around the Federal Reserve Bank....about 2 blocks from the Occupy SF site....lots of cops around.

The best sign I read:

You would think a police state would pay it's police better

Oh yeah
3:00pm Saturday a rally and march against police brutality is happening.......I think it's going on around the US.