OCCUPY WALL STREET

[persiphone]

personally, i think we should move to suspend the presidential elections until democracy and the rights of the citizens here are restored. i'm tired of participating in a political process designed to imprison us.

[Cin]

Originally Posted by persiphone

personally, i think we should move to suspend the presidential elections until democracy and the rights of the citizens here are restored. i'm tired of participating in a political process designed to imprison us.

I agree but how could we do that? We can't even stop the senate from passing bills erasing our rights as citizens of the United States. And I don't even want to get started on the average citizen awareness of what is happening to our rights. Even when they are aware they are apathetic at best. Percentage wise people just aren't getting it.

[persiphone]

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

I agree but how could we do that? We can't even stop the senate from passing bills erasing our rights as citizens of the United States. And I don't even want to get started on the average citizen awareness of what is happening to our rights. Even when they are aware they are apathetic at best. Percentage wise people just aren't getting it.

well its not like politicians aren't aggressively trying to suppress voters. i say let's turn it around on them and show up at the polls and help them with that. let's make it impossible for anyone to vote.

[Gráinne]

Originally Posted by persiphone

well its not like politicians aren't aggressively trying to suppress voters. i say let's turn it around on them and show up at the polls and help them with that. let's make it impossible for anyone to vote.

I'll take it that's tongue in cheek. My grandmothers marched for that right to vote and I'll be darned if anyone stops me.

[persiphone]

Originally Posted by guihong

I'll take it that's tongue in cheek. My grandmothers marched for that right to vote and I'll be darned if anyone stops me.

aahhh ya party pooper. you're right, of course. but dang it's just not working.

[Cin]

Originally Posted by guihong

I'll take it that's tongue in cheek. My grandmothers marched for that right to vote and I'll be darned if anyone stops me.

Well as long as you are registered to vote on the side of those with the power to suppress voters' rights or live in an area that is not seen as a voting problem for those with the power to suppress voters' rights there will be no problem for you. Your vote and your right to do it will be protected.

[persiphone]

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

Well as long as you are registered to vote on the side of those with the power to suppress voters' rights or live in an area that is not seen as a voting problem for those with the power to suppress voters' rights there will be no problem for you. Your vote and your right to do it will be protected.

it's hard, though, to ask women...who haven't had the right to vote for a full century yet....to NOT vote. i mean, i would totally boycott the elections in a heartbeat. but i can understand why some women would not want to.

on a side note....it's interesting that the idea of women marching for the right vote comes up in a protest for american's rights. i find that ironic and fascinating.

[Cin]

Originally Posted by persiphone

well its not like politicians aren't aggressively trying to suppress voters. i say let's turn it around on them and show up at the polls and help them with that. let's make it impossible for anyone to vote.

LOL. It sounds good. There are some potential problems though.

I'm thinking then the five people who managed to get through and vote for Romney will elect the president.

Also if we have enough people aware and willing to act that we could stop the elections why not just use that power to put someone in office who would not be bought.

Oh wait, is that even possible? Are there people who are not for sale?

We are taught from our first breath that we are and should be for sale one way or another. Work is the ethic. Sell the hours of your life to the highest bidder. And in the case of the poor and the uneducated it is a pitiful bid indeed. It would be hard not to be for sale.

Laws need to be changed or made that will protect us and keep money out of government. But I guess stopping the election isn't a bad idea. Anything that isn't business as usual is worth a shot.

[persiphone]

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

LOL. It sounds good. There are some potential problems though.

I'm thinking then the five people who managed to get through and vote for Romney will elect the president.

Also if we have enough people aware and willing to act that we could stop the elections why not just use that power to put someone in office who would not be bought.

Oh wait, is that even possible? Are there people who are not for sale?

We are taught from our first breath that we are and should be for sale one way or another. Work is the ethic. Sell your the hours of your life to the highest bidder. And in the case of the poor and the uneducated it is a pitiful bid indeed. It would be hard not to be for sale.

Laws need to be changed or made that will protect us and keep money out of government. But I guess stopping the election isn't a bad idea. Anything that isn't business as usual is worth a shot.

right...but how to do that since our "votes" don't really count anyway? outside of completely derailing the whole thing.....

[Cin]

Originally Posted by persiphone

right...but how to do that since our "votes" don't really count anyway? outside of completely derailing the whole thing.....

Well we can't. You need numbers to affect change. Until THEN, if there ever is a THEN and if it is not too late when THEN happens, we can keep on speaking out and up at every possible opportunity and feet to the street always helps. But I don't mind derailing the whole thing either.

[persiphone]

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

Well we can't. You need numbers to affect change. Until THEN, if there ever is a THEN and if it is not too late when THEN happens, we can keep on speaking out and up at every possible opportunity and feet to the street always helps. But I don't mind derailing the whole thing either.

i asked everyone i knew today if they knew what the national defense act was. not a single person could answer. *shudders* i'm moving to boycott the presidential elections.

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Originally Posted by persiphone

personally, i think we should move to suspend the presidential elections until democracy and the rights of the citizens here are restored. i'm tired of participating in a political process designed to imprison us.

I've pretty much decided the presidential elections don't mean squat. Congress runs the country now - a congress which is influenced by wealthy special interests. Maybe the governors run some stuff too.

I would spout off about the line-item veto and campaign reforms here, but my cynicism is starting to outweigh my optimism. I really don't know what can be done. (Is there an icon for hopelessness?)

[persiphone]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaMa'am

I've pretty much decided the presidential elections don't mean squat. Congress runs the country now - a congress which is influenced by wealthy special interests. Maybe the governors run some stuff too.

I would spout off about the line-item veto and campaign reforms here, but my cynicism is starting to outweigh my optimism. I really don't know what can be done. (Is there an icon for hopelessness?)

i think it's high time we put our foot down and just say NO to a defunct political process. if there are NO votes then there can be no decision on anything. then what can they do? make not voting illegal?