Butch/Butch Theory

ChainerBoi · 04-21-2012, 04:18 PM

Or, as someone in a previous post said, "A celebration of equals."

Thanks.

Chancie · 04-21-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChainerBoi

Or, as someone in a previous post said, "A celebration of equals."

Thanks.

I hope I'm not sorry if I ask, What does that mean?

Quintease · 04-21-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChainerBoi

Or, as someone in a previous post said, "A celebration of equals."

Thanks.

Wow...

How fcking insulting.

Rope · 04-22-2012, 11:13 AM

What you say about anothers sexuality/desire says more about you then it does about them. Internalized homophobia, mysoginistic turns of phrases, unintentionally insulting anothers relating with phrases like, 'more equal' or 'more spiritual' puts down the ability of another that they cannot have a more equal or spiritual relationship but you can...please. I sent a butch boi that was tracking me at an event to hang with the other bottoms who happened to be femmes for a bit in a hotel room, hys comment was, 'and do what, talk about fingernail polish?' Wow, way to turn me off by insulting my femme friends and assume their conversation could be nothing more than fluff.

We're attracted to what we're attracted to and that said, it can change over time.

So "our" community putting others down for their preferences is very sad and in my opinion should not be tolerated and challenged in conversations all the time.

Rope--

Quintease · 04-22-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rope

What you say about anothers sexuality/desire says more about you then it does about them. Internalized homophobia, mysoginistic turns of phrases, unintentionally insulting anothers relating with phrases like, 'more equal' or 'more spiritual' puts down the ability of another that they cannot have a more equal or spiritual relationship but you can...please. I sent a butch boi that was tracking me at an event to hang with the other bottoms who happened to be femmes for a bit in a hotel room, hys comment was, 'and do what, talk about fingernail polish?' Wow, way to turn me off by insulting my femme friends and assume their conversation could be nothing more than fluff.

And the fastest way to show your complete ignorance of how the world works. As a femme I never talked about nail polish*. Most of my friends are feminine and I can't think of a single conversation we had which centred about nail polish. What I did have, unfortunately, was masculine-type dykes talking to me as if I was 3 years old. I even had women express shock and outrage that I wasn't willing to follow them home like they expected me to. I'd say the problem isn't the femmes in a lot of cases, but less mature boi's and butches buying into the idea that feminine = passive.

*(not until I found a woman who could paint it on for me and make it stay for 3 weeks so I wouldn't have to do anything myself. I still wear it, not because I'm a 'femme' but because my husband loves it)

deathbypoem · 05-18-2012, 08:16 PM

I remember back in 09 when I first started this thread! WOW, that has been so long ago! Thanks Marine, for re-activating the thread

) Its been a while, since I have even gone through these threads. Must have been super busy these last couple years hah!!! Glad you also agree that butch/butch is super hot :P. As for me, YES Im still on the very extremely butch on butch love boat!

Mormegil · 10-13-2015, 03:41 PM

I have been attracted to femme and butch in the past. But anymore im almost always attracted to butches. I recently spoke to a woman that flat out told me i was weird because im more attracted to other butch women. She then informed me it is unnatural . I was kinda shocked and told her that some folks think gay in general is unnatural. And that i think you should just like what you like and thats it. She then told me its to weird and two butches together make her think of two men. I asked about femme /femme and that was unnatural to. I just quit talking to her lol .

Ive also had my brother tell me it would be hard for me to find a butch that would date me because im butch. And i say thats bs. Ive seen plenty butch/butch couples. And i attended the wedding of a soft butch and butch that had been together 20 years. So i say its natural and more common than some believe.

cinnamongrrl · 10-13-2015, 04:44 PM

the only issue I have with butch on butch....is that whn they partner up, its two fewer butches for us femmes that love em.....lol

homoe · 10-13-2015, 04:58 PM

I have absolutely no issues with either butch on butch or femme on femme! If two people find someone in this day and age all the best to them

The_Lady_Snow · 10-13-2015, 07:01 PM

Internal homophobia is an ugly stain in our queer tapestry...

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Originally Posted by Mormegil

I have been attracted to femme and butch in the past. But anymore im almost always attracted to butches. I recently spoke to a woman that flat out told me i was weird because im more attracted to other butch women. She then informed me it is unnatural . I was kinda shocked and told her that some folks think gay in general is unnatural. And that i think you should just like what you like and thats it. She then told me its to weird and two butches together make her think of two men. I asked about femme /femme and that was unnatural to. I just quit talking to her lol .

Ive also had my brother tell me it would be hard for me to find a butch that would date me because im butch. And i say thats bs. Ive seen plenty butch/butch couples. And i attended the wedding of a soft butch and butch that had been together 20 years. So i say its natural and more common than some believe.

JDeere · 10-13-2015, 07:23 PM

Who cares who loves who and what label, they use, love is love!

Just my little take on the subject

Angeltoes · 02-19-2016, 05:08 PM

I don't think it's always a case of internalized homophobia. Some femmes may pout about the butch/butch dynamic for the simple reason that they're jealous. It means fewer butches available to them, especially if they find the butches involved to be attractive. It's hard to find a partner and it's easier to pass the blame for that by saying 'no wonder I can't find a partner when all the butches are being taken by other butches!" I have had brief moments where I felt that way. I know it's dumb and selfish, but I'm human. I always come to my senses, because we all need to find love and happiness. Life's too short to worry about other people's expectations.

04-22-2012, 11:13 AM	#4
Rope Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Preferred Pronoun?: Hy Relationship Status: polyamorous Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Francisco Posts: 304 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 79 Thanked 1,277 Times in 212 Posts Rep Power: 8577864	What you say about anothers sexuality/desire says more about you then it does about them. Internalized homophobia, mysoginistic turns of phrases, unintentionally insulting anothers relating with phrases like, 'more equal' or 'more spiritual' puts down the ability of another that they cannot have a more equal or spiritual relationship but you can...please. I sent a butch boi that was tracking me at an event to hang with the other bottoms who happened to be femmes for a bit in a hotel room, hys comment was, 'and do what, talk about fingernail polish?' Wow, way to turn me off by insulting my femme friends and assume their conversation could be nothing more than fluff. We're attracted to what we're attracted to and that said, it can change over time. So "our" community putting others down for their preferences is very sad and in my opinion should not be tolerated and challenged in conversations all the time. Rope-- __________________ www.ButchFemmeSocials.com

05-18-2012, 08:16 PM	#6
deathbypoem Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Poetically versed to breathe only truth and bleed certainty Preferred Pronoun?: Kane Relationship Status: Married to Chefnaction Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Finally, home Posts: 1,987 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,900 Thanked 4,733 Times in 1,583 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	I remember back in 09 when I first started this thread! WOW, that has been so long ago! Thanks Marine, for re-activating the thread ) Its been a while, since I have even gone through these threads. Must have been super busy these last couple years hah!!! Glad you also agree that butch/butch is super hot :P. As for me, YES Im still on the very extremely butch on butch love boat! __________________ I need your grace To remind me To find my own

10-13-2015, 03:41 PM	#7
Mormegil Junior Member How Do You Identify?: just myself Preferred Pronoun?: meh Relationship Status: single Join Date: May 2014 Location: pensacola , FL Posts: 64 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 31 Thanked 184 Times in 50 Posts Rep Power: 1853354	I have been attracted to femme and butch in the past. But anymore im almost always attracted to butches. I recently spoke to a woman that flat out told me i was weird because im more attracted to other butch women. She then informed me it is unnatural . I was kinda shocked and told her that some folks think gay in general is unnatural. And that i think you should just like what you like and thats it. She then told me its to weird and two butches together make her think of two men. I asked about femme /femme and that was unnatural to. I just quit talking to her lol . Ive also had my brother tell me it would be hard for me to find a butch that would date me because im butch. And i say thats bs. Ive seen plenty butch/butch couples. And i attended the wedding of a soft butch and butch that had been together 20 years. So i say its natural and more common than some believe. __________________ "All is full of love"

10-13-2015, 04:44 PM	#8
cinnamongrrl Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: cleverly disguised as a responsible adult* Preferred Pronoun?: wild woman Relationship Status: No, thank you. Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Home in NC..gonna dig in like a tick this time… Posts: 7,664 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 15,233 Thanked 27,601 Times in 6,958 Posts Rep Power: 21474859	the only issue I have with butch on butch....is that whn they partner up, its two fewer butches for us femmes that love em.....lol __________________

10-13-2015, 07:23 PM	#11
JDeere Practically Lives Here How Do You Identify?: Transgender Preferred Pronoun?: He/him/his Relationship Status: Single Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 17,752 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 31,018 Thanked 28,833 Times in 9,708 Posts Rep Power: 21474865	Who cares who loves who and what label, they use, love is love! Just my little take on the subject __________________ Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning. Albert Einstein

04-21-2012, 04:18 PM	#1
ChainerBoi Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Queer/boi Preferred Pronoun?: he/him Relationship Status: Captivity Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: USA Posts: 9 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 29 Thanked 24 Times in 4 Posts Rep Power: 0	Or, as someone in a previous post said, "A celebration of equals." Thanks.

10-13-2015, 04:58 PM	#9
homoe Practically Lives Here How Do You Identify?: Butch Relationship Status: ..... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 30 minute ferry ride from Seattle Posts: 38,565 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 20,811 Thanked 33,548 Times in 14,914 Posts Rep Power: 21474889	I have absolutely no issues with either butch on butch or femme on femme! If two people find someone in this day and age all the best to them

02-19-2016, 05:08 PM	#12
Angeltoes Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: Nunya Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bernlandia Posts: 1,740 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,286 Thanked 5,525 Times in 1,386 Posts Rep Power: 21474851	I don't think it's always a case of internalized homophobia. Some femmes may pout about the butch/butch dynamic for the simple reason that they're jealous. It means fewer butches available to them, especially if they find the butches involved to be attractive. It's hard to find a partner and it's easier to pass the blame for that by saying 'no wonder I can't find a partner when all the butches are being taken by other butches!" I have had brief moments where I felt that way. I know it's dumb and selfish, but I'm human. I always come to my senses, because we all need to find love and happiness. Life's too short to worry about other people's expectations. __________________ Now say you're sorry for ushering in the fourth fucking reich- anonymous