The Loft: Butches and Femmes in their 40s, 50s and over.

[Stormys500LMTD]

Single, living in DE, new here.

[Stormys500LMTD]

Single, living in DE, new here. Debating about dating FTM's, seems the butch's are unaware what a woman wants, but she knows what SHE WANTS...

[morningstar55]

evening lofters.......
ok im kinda bored tonight.. think my nap was a lil bit to long.... today lol cuz now im wide awake.
evening to u stormy welcome to the Loft..

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by Stormys500LMTD

Single, living in DE, new here. Debating about dating FTM's, seems the butch's are unaware what a woman wants, but she knows what SHE WANTS...

Welcome to the Planet and the loft.

This lesbian butch knows what a lesbian femme wants....except when the lesbian femme wants to date men which just confuses me.

[MysticOceansFL]

Good evening folks

[Sunny]

Hope everyone is doing well. i am recovering from a severe sinus infection. What has everyone been up to???? Huh?

[morningstar55]

Originally Posted by Sunny

Hope everyone is doing well. i am recovering from a severe sinus infection. What has everyone been up to???? Huh?

noting much here..... took to long of a nap today now im wide awake.. lol ..
glad ur starting to feel better.

[LipstickLola]

Originally Posted by Stormys500LMTD

Single, living in DE, new here. Debating about dating FTM's, seems the butch's are unaware what a woman wants, but she knows what SHE WANTS...

Welcome Stormy! Lots of fabulous people here on the planet

Actually? this Lofty LipstickLolachick has had wonderful experiences with my prior butch gfs. Let's just say? I'm wanting that again.......

[AtLast]

I'm thinking about the fact that I will be officially "over" (from the thread title) this March and just how I want to spend my 60th Birthday. Will have to be a major pamper thyself event! It is one of those milestone birthdays.....

Spending with my closest friends would be perfect. A white-water rafting trip would be grand. Damn, if we don't live miles apart! But, there has to be a way.....

Geez, is collagen better than retinol for wrinkles and lines?

LOL.... I have hinted more than once to my son that a purple Harley with a side-car (for my dog) would be great!

[LipstickLola]

I'm having a milestone on Sunday and am having a special weekend with my BFF at super nice resort that has a spa.

I love to whitewater raft, it's wonderful in this region Rafting season was over about a month ago though. Now it's snow season!

I've not gotten into the retinol or collagen, I just would rather spend my bucks on other things right now, maybe in another ten years I'll change my mind? I wear my lines with pride, they reflect who I am, and the life that I've lived. New boobs? now thaaaat's a possibility, at the very least a lift, LOL.

[asphaltcowboi]

good morning ladies,gemts and all surrounding! hope everyone has a great day!

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by LipstickLola

I'm having a milestone on Sunday and am having a special weekend with my BFF at super nice resort that has a spa.

I love to whitewater raft, it's wonderful in this region Rafting season was over about a month ago though. Now it's snow season!

I've not gotten into the retinol or collagen, I just would rather spend my bucks on other things right now, maybe in another ten years I'll change my mind? I wear my lines with pride, they reflect who I am, and the life that I've lived. New boobs? now thaaaat's a possibility, at the very least a lift, LOL.

Yup, 'bout 10 years... LOL!!

I have enjoyed each decade, so, my guess is that the best is yet to come!

[morningstar55]

mawning Lofters..

soo tell me how will you spend your sunday today??

for me ..... im hoping to get a load heading north and a lil to the east.. lol
soo I can land inear Erie Pa.... then to my boss's machanics shop.. then im going home.
soo been resorting things and cleaning up the truck... im gonna be away from it till next friday.. *sigh*.. im gonna miss it..... NOT!! lol

well maybe a lil .. lol

[blueeyes226_l]

Hey, Hope all is well with you all. I haven't really done any posting for sometime. My Aunt is dieing of lung cancer. The tummer has almost filled the inside of her rt lung. No help for her. I have really been getting junk about me being gay. I know my depresson will pass. With my aunt she has never put me down for being gay. My mother is doing a darn good job of it. Any ways,I guess thats why I haven't posted. A nother thing is being alone. I mean I miss the companonship. Someone to talk to who is like me. Any ways,I hope all is well with all of you.
blueeyes226_l

[PumaJ]

Very sorry to read about your Aunt and her lung cancer. Hard to go through for everyone.

I can understand why you are feeling down in the dumps during this difficult time. Oy vey! So much stress! Would be a very hard time for anyone regardless of any other mood issues. Sad that your mom is giving you grief about being gay. Not very nice of her, IMO.

Thank goodness you can come here and feel at home hanging out online with other gay women. You know that we all get it, I'm sure.

So, here's some hugs & flowers comin' at ya'!

[rustedrims]

Hey blueeyes226..

sorry to hear about your aunt..we have all sat and stood at friends and familys bedsides..it is hard to watch when ya know you cant help them..

ok blue i have something to say about your mom..my little story and i will try not to make it to long but i got a point to make..

here it goes..i live in ohio and took my mom to indiana to visit family..guess it was getting to me alot cause i wanted to talk to mom about my lifestyle..i was thinking i could tell her in the car during the 4 hour drive..chickened out on the way there and was determined to tell her on the way back..well on the way back we were getting close to the ohio line and still didnt say anything..so told myself i am telling her when we cross the ohio line..ok crossed the line and a few miles i said mom i gotta tell ya something..she just looked at me and said ok..so i told her i was gay and she said I Know..WHAT.!!.Butch woman that looks every bit gay,,thought i was doing a good job of "hiding it"..what a relief..i asked her ,well then why didnt you tell me and she said i was waiting for you to come to me..we talked about things that i didnt realize was being said about me from people in church..fortunately nothing in a negative tone was said..all good things..people know me for my humor..i can make anyone laugh anytime and all the junk i am changing on my house NOT..!!!..Because i am gay..I am a nice person and i let that come through before being gay..

ok with that being said this is for your mom..
as i was talking to my mom about my lifestyle she said she was reading about gay people..guess she was trying to understand why i am like i am..in her readings she said the mother is the one who has "The Gean" [spelling] that determines if the kid is going to be gay or straight..i dont know where she read that from but she is a reader and found it somewhere..might mention it to your mom..maybe do a little reasearch to have something to back ya up..maybe someone in here knows a little about that stuff that can help..
a question i asked my mom....When you were born did you have some kind of form to fill out to choose the lifestyle you wanted to live..??..i told her that i didnt and if i did why would i pick being gay..???.!!!..being made fun of your whole life..maybe if you choose to ask her that question do it where other people can hear it so maybe she will leave you alone about it..dont do it in a mean way..just ask her like you ask could you please pass the mashed potatoes..look her in the eyes and wait for her answer..i asked my mom if she feels different towards me and she said No your my kid and i love you..this kind comes to mind to..a few years ago i had to put my dog to sleep because he got old and warn out..a few days later my mom asked me if i was going to get another dog..kinda threw me a little and i asked her if one of your kids dies are you going to get another kid..??.{there is 4 of us}..she kinda sat back made a mom face and said hummm..same thing..
Blue i am tellin ya when you get the "Gay Card" thrown at ya,ya gotta throw it right back..it takes the wind right out of their sail..i know some days are better than others and you will never stop it but you can slow it down a little..give yourself some time and get your thoughts together..dont pounce on your mom but let her know you are here and you are not going away..
sorry about the length..i get wound up when our lifestyle is questioned and attacked..maybe they are the wrong ones..said that to my mom to..hummm..
let me know how it goes if you question your mom about HER lifestyle..once again sorry about your aunt..my thoughts are with you..

Hey Damselfly..if you find a library some where and get into your reading stuff maybe you can do a little research for Blue..hope you are feeling better..

S..

[blueeyes226_l]

Originally Posted by rustedrims

Hey blueeyes226..

sorry to hear about your aunt..we have all sat and stood at friends and familys bedsides..it is hard to watch when ya know you cant help them..

ok blue i have something to say about your mom..my little story and i will try not to make it to long but i got a point to make..

here it goes..i live in ohio and took my mom to indiana to visit family..guess it was getting to me alot cause i wanted to talk to mom about my lifestyle..i was thinking i could tell her in the car during the 4 hour drive..chickened out on the way there and was determined to tell her on the way back..well on the way back we were getting close to the ohio line and still didnt say anything..so told myself i am telling her when we cross the ohio line..ok crossed the line and a few miles i said mom i gotta tell ya something..she just looked at me and said ok..so i told her i was gay and she said I Know..WHAT.!!.Butch woman that looks every bit gay,,thought i was doing a good job of "hiding it"..what a relief..i asked her ,well then why didnt you tell me and she said i was waiting for you to come to me..we talked about things that i didnt realize was being said about me from people in church..fortunately nothing in a negative tone was said..all good things..people know me for my humor..i can make anyone laugh anytime and all the junk i am changing on my house NOT..!!!..Because i am gay..I am a nice person and i let that come through before being gay..

ok with that being said this is for your mom..
as i was talking to my mom about my lifestyle she said she was reading about gay people..guess she was trying to understand why i am like i am..in her readings she said the mother is the one who has "The Gean" [spelling] that determines if the kid is going to be gay or straight..i dont know where she read that from but she is a reader and found it somewhere..might mention it to your mom..maybe do a little reasearch to have something to back ya up..maybe someone in here knows a little about that stuff that can help..
a question i asked my mom....When you were born did you have some kind of form to fill out to choose the lifestyle you wanted to live..??..i told her that i didnt and if i did why would i pick being gay..???.!!!..being made fun of your whole life..maybe if you choose to ask her that question do it where other people can hear it so maybe she will leave you alone about it..dont do it in a mean way..just ask her like you ask could you please pass the mashed potatoes..look her in the eyes and wait for her answer..i asked my mom if she feels different towards me and she said No your my kid and i love you..this kind comes to mind to..a few years ago i had to put my dog to sleep because he got old and warn out..a few days later my mom asked me if i was going to get another dog..kinda threw me a little and i asked her if one of your kids dies are you going to get another kid..??.{there is 4 of us}..she kinda sat back made a mom face and said hummm..same thing..
Blue i am tellin ya when you get the "Gay Card" thrown at ya,ya gotta throw it right back..it takes the wind right out of their sail..i know some days are better than others and you will never stop it but you can slow it down a little..give yourself some time and get your thoughts together..dont pounce on your mom but let her know you are here and you are not going away..
sorry about the length..i get wound up when our lifestyle is questioned and attacked..maybe they are the wrong ones..said that to my mom to..hummm..
let me know how it goes if you question your mom about HER lifestyle..once again sorry about your aunt..my thoughts are with you..

Hey Damselfly..if you find a library some where and get into your reading stuff maybe you can do a little research for Blue..hope you are feeling better..

S..

My mothers health isn't good Thats one reson I moved in with her. My sister all she thinks of is going out of town with her drunk hubbie. I'm here at the house alot. My mother made her Will out and left my daughter some stuff and My sister had the nerve to ask me to go in with her so see My daughter didn't get any thing then she would give me something. I was apalled! I said 1. She is my daughter and 2. that is moms last wishes. No I will not. She blew up at my mom about it. Told her my daughter was a bi_ c_ and she will just sit on it and no one will get any thing. I told her she can't do that. Her replay was oh yes,I can I'm the boss over it. I told her there was 2 other names on it to and there would be 2 agance 1.To say the lest I was pis_ed what she did to mom. When ever Mom is around my sister she gets real snotty, snippy and trys to boss me. I hate that..... My sister is a pice of work to say the less... If my daughters name comes up my sister gets really mad...She has to have that god oh mighty doller. I can't really live Mom u know move away from here because,with her health we could find her gone. It's one heck of a mess here. Any ways Thanks for the hugs and flowers and advice. Hey if I may ask where in Ohio are you around? Where I live is about 2 1/2 hrs from Ohio state line.
Love u all...

[DamselFly]

{{{blueeyes}}} a big strong femme hug! you sound like you need it! you are really being put through the wringer w/family right now! is there any way you could move into your own place nearby? being put down day after day is definitely NOT good for your emotional, mental, spiritual, and physcial health. that will wear you down quickly! if you can't move, then i suggest you find a gay or gay friendly counselor. just having someone to talk to would help. is there a chapter of PFLAG near you? that would help you and perhaps even your mom with the gay bashing from your family. and remember, WE are always here for you! (if you want a femme to talk with, feel free to pm me.)
S (rustedrims), you are lucky with your mom and her reaction to your being butch/gay. a lot of mothers really have a difficult time with butch children, moreso than femmes. i suppose it's the masculine butch persona that scares them. i'm so glad that your mom accepts you and loves you just the way you are. that's a boon for any child, regardless of orientation! cheers for your mom!!!
i didn't have such luck with my birth mother. my dad was fine w/me being anything and anyone i wanted, as long as i was happy. when he died, heart attack at 55, the rest of the family threw me out. lock, stock, and barrel! i wasn't even invited to my dad's funeral! my mother and brother refused to talk to me, and my brother didn't even tell his family he HAD a sister. too bad-i would make one very cool aunt! they were in the hit zone of katrina, so now i have no family, even one who doesn't accept me! luckily, i've had several families who have adopted me, so i'm not alone anymore! that's how i came to be chinese, btw. i was adopted into a chinese kwoon (family), given a new name and everything! when i get enough money, i'm having my name changed to theirs!
well, enough from me right now! S, i haven't heard from you in awhile. fenshen (please) write me and let me know how you are doing!
and for all the lofters, qingduo guan zhao!
i'm glad to be here!
namaste,
DamselFly

[nikebutch110]

2 all the sexy ppl!

[rustedrims]

Originally Posted by nikebutch110

2 all the sexy ppl!

Not feeling to sexy right now..Waiting on a tornado watch for my county..Texed 2 kids to keep an eye out..My mom is comming back from Florida now..I told her to stop short of Tennesee..They are driving towards it now..

nikebutch110..how is that for a sexy Hello..Welcome to the thread..Good people in here..

Blueeyes..Things always taste better cooked outside..no dishes to wash..Sometimes ya gotta stop to take a nap..