"Traditional" Masculinity in Today's Society

[Martina]

Could that BE more transparent? You are trying to remove any political implications at ALL.

It feels DIFFERENT as a person with gender that includes feminine attributes to be silenced or told how she should BE Or behave in the world. It's not just personal. There is a political history that resonates in our BONES.

Telling me how to be a femme is not that different than the stuff i heard as a child -- how to act like a lady or how to be a good girl. The same implicit threats are usually involved too. No one will like you. You won't get attention. Blah blah.

i can't speak for Snow, but that's what her posts meant to me.

Originally Posted by Dylan

Well, yeah, I totally agree with you from a personal perspective.

I'm sure just about anyone would agree with you from a personal perspective that whenver One is subjected to Another's impositions, One is not going to be too happy unless One agrees with Another's stance.

I mean, I certainly didn't like the times I've dated someone who had ideas that didn't coincide with my own on "This is what a butch does, This is what a femme does". Honestly (without trying to sound alarmist), I think/wonder if some people sometimes use these statements as 'weapons' (term used loosely). I think they can be used hurtfully. I also think/wonder if some people don't use these ideas as a means to actually break off the relationship without actually having to be adult and just break it off...you know what I'm sayin'? Now, I'm not saying that's an 'all the time/every time' kind of thing, but I am saying, I do think it happens. But then sometimes, "That's why they call it dating", yanno?


Dylan