only another butch would understand

[BullDog]

Originally Posted by sharkchomp

Thank you Bulldog for your responce.

~~~shark~~~~~~

You are very welcome. Hopefully with time we will understand each other better. Have a great rest of the day.

[sharkchomp]

Originally Posted by BullDog

You are very welcome. Hopefully with time we will understand each other better. Have a great rest of the day.

That is my hope too. Have a great day too

~~~shark~~~~~~~~~

[Jett]

To start I'll make clear I am definitely and unabashedly a female, a queer and butch, and expect to be respected in all that, and desire to reflect the same respect to others in their identities. I'm not female "identified" per say, to clarify... I just am what I am, what I've always been and no longer see the reasoning behind announcing I'm a female every time I say I'm butch. I am a butch that's readily apparent and my point here... that is my reason in being here, to meet w/ like minds and experience despite minor id differences.

Bottom line for me here is that... and beyond that I'm neither impressed, repulsed or even remotely interested with what sex one is or how we choose to identify (except as I said in regards to respecting). Honestly, really I personally (me) don't feel "erased" because no one here has any power to do that to me... none. But I have felt disrespected directly and insidious ways (in the default pronouns/second besting of female masculinity/ etc.), I have seen the perpetuation and promotion of clearly negative messages about being female (not saying any group is solely responsible) and it does not just affect the female identified butches but every female here including femmes, transwomen etc. etc.

I never get it, it's not a secret: butchness- masculinity- femininity what ever doesn't hinge on how we choose to label ourselves. There's just not a lot of rhyme or reason, so why stomp on each others toes by perpetuating stereotypes of the butch ids? The more we get over this posturing the better off we'll be, and the better off the community will be.

I don't know, I think that's all I got for now, as I said previously, I don't know how deep I'll be into these particular conversations, I'm tired and really enjoying "just being" but I wanted to get this off my chest. I hope we can be a gentler, kinder community where no one will have to feel like just walking away. I do believe we can achieve something like that if we desire to.

Metro

(stereotyping/disrespect of id happens to male id too and I'm not negating that but speaking to my experience and me place)