Transgender Professional Athletes

[Corkey]

First off, why the hell not? Secondly they would have to work 3X as hard to get the muscle mass of their competitors, or did you conveniently forget that hormones will not help? Obviously science isn't your strong suit.Your use of photos doesn't help your cause.

[JDeere]

I know a Transman who competes with cismen in weight lifting and he works just as hard or harder to obtain the goals and his medals.

I agree with Corkey, Why the hell not?

[vagina]

What about transwomen that still have testicles and penis attached? Should they be allowed to compete in women's sports as well?

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by vagina

What about transwomen that still have testicles and penis attached? Should they be allowed to compete in women's sports as well?

Why the hell are you worried about a hypothetical? Who died and made you gender police? Trans people can do and be whoever they want and your approval is not required!

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by vagina

So would it be ok for transwomen to enter Bodybuilding competitions?

Yes.

Originally Posted by vagina

What about transwomen that still have testicles and penis attached? Should they be allowed to compete in women's sports as well?

Why not? If someone has transitioned or is transitioning, they are on hormones to help them make that transition physically from point A to point B. For M to F, that translates to less testosterone and more estrogen as well as anti-androgens.

Here is a link about the Feminization Regimen that may help clear up some questions.

At that time, the penis and testicles would be irrelevant to the competition at hand. Meaning, they give the person no advantage. That's what I assume you are having an issue with; a perceived advantage that the transitioned/ing person would have. Correct?

If anything, they could be a hindrance to the person, given that the outside would still not match the inside and that can really take a toll. We are all affected by physical things on a mental and emotional level. Everyone. That's even more so for athletes, especially high performance and high level ones.

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by vagina

What about transwomen that still have testicles and penis attached? Should they be allowed to compete in women's sports as well?

If they are on testosterone blockers, yes.

I am honestly wondering if you are getting the main point here? If a trans woman's testosterone levels are equal to any other females (due to castration OR testosterone blockers), then yes, they should compete with other women. If you had them compete with the men, they would do no better than any other female (natal), so it wouldn't be fair (and in the case of contact sports, like boxing, get pretty hurt. It would be no different than a natal male hitting his natal female wife).

If a female bodied person is taking testosterone to transition to male (therefore their testosterone levels are in the male testosterone range), then they should compete with the men. They should not compete with the women because they have an unfair advantage (and again, would have the strength of any man hitting a woman). But, with your argument (it is about what we have in our pants), this is what indeed would happen. Since the guy has a vagina, he should be thrown in a ring with women he can bat about. It has to go both ways. You can't just keep trans women out of women's sports, without keeping trans men IN female sports. Do you think that this is how it should go?

Instead of just putting up random pictures, how about taking any one of our arguments, quote it, and argue it? Have a conversation about it. That is the point of the message board.

[fever]

Just reading through these posts. I am surprised you weren't warned or timed out for being blatantly rude to another member. But, maybe you were..............

Originally Posted by Corkey

First off, why the hell not? Secondly they would have to work 3X as hard to get the muscle mass of their competitors, or did you conveniently forget that hormones will not help? Obviously science isn't your strong suit.Your use of photos doesn't help your cause.

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by fever

Just reading through these posts. I am surprised you weren't warned or timed out for being blatantly rude to another member. But, maybe you were..............

First off, I was coming from my me my place, secondly, how I respond to people who are Transphobic is really none of your business. Would you like a smiley with that?

[nycfem]

Fever and Corkey, please take it private if you want to continue back-and-forthing, but let's get this thread back on topic: Transgender Professional Athletes. Thank you.

Jennifer (Moderator)