The Female Male ID "Wars"... or Great Divide

[BullDog]

Well, as far as I am concerned the most relevant post in the whole damn thread is Heart's. I guess it's ok for people to spout Facebook conspiracy theories, but not bring up misogyny and sexism- which is the heart of the matter.

Misogyny and sexism concerns everyone, so why are people telling Heart not to post here?


Yes there are individuals who don't like each other, yes there are people who are rude, yes some of the same things get said over and over. That's the small tiny stuff people want to talk about instead of the underlying issues.

Talking about sexism and misogyny does not equal anti-trans or anti-male.

If anyone has issues with me or what I said or where I said it, please tell me directly instead of cryptic talk. You can send it to me privately so as not to derail if that's the issue.

[Gayla]

Originally Posted by BullDog

Well, as far as I am concerned the most relevant post in the whole damn thread is Heart's. I guess it's ok for people to spout Facebook conspiracy theories, but not bring up misogyny and sexism- which is the heart of the matter.

Misogyny and sexism concerns everyone, so why are people telling Heart not to post here?


Yes there are individuals who don't like each other, yes there are people who are rude, yes some of the same things get said over and over. That's the small tiny stuff people want to talk about instead of the underlying issues.

Talking about sexism and misogyny does not equal anti-trans or anti-male.

If anyone has issues with me or what I said or where I said it, please tell me directly instead of cryptic talk. You can send it to me privately so as not to derail if that's the issue.

Here is me telling you directly as you've requested.

Do you have any idea how dismissive this is?

The conversation has gone in many different directions. There was some weird Facebook thing that happened at the start, that I believe was some public thing about a private matter, that was between two people and has been done for a page a half.

Since then, it's been, imo, a good discussion about many different points. Most everyone has posted about their own experiences. Most everyone has posted about the questions Met asked. Most everyone has contributed something on some level.

Some issues may be small, some may be big, some may be seen as either/or by those reading but they were obviously big enough in the mind of the poster to write them on the Internet for all to see. Some sparked discussion. Some didn't. Either way, people are talking openly about an issue that I've seen you reference numerous times here.

Then you feel the need to come in and tell us we're doing it wrong. Really, truly, honestly, from my gayla place, why?

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by BullDog

Well, as far as I am concerned the most relevant post in the whole damn thread is Heart's. I guess it's ok for people to spout Facebook conspiracy theories, but not bring up misogyny and sexism- which is the heart of the matter.

Misogyny and sexism concerns everyone, so why are people telling Heart not to post here?


Yes there are individuals who don't like each other, yes there are people who are rude, yes some of the same things get said over and over. That's the small tiny stuff people want to talk about instead of the underlying issues.

Talking about sexism and misogyny does not equal anti-trans or anti-male.

If anyone has issues with me or what I said or where I said it, please tell me directly instead of cryptic talk. You can send it to me privately so as not to derail if that's the issue.

M'kay so no one told Heart not to post here..

What was requested and I am OK with this since I did it.. I requested what was said in a femme thread stay there and not be paraded around for butch validation. She don't have to listen I ain't her momma. and well I am perfectly ok with the decision to ask her not to. Hope that clarifies.

I have to go now and start the day

Peace

[Heart]

I did not post in this thread for butch validation.

I brought Medusa's question about sexism and misogyny into this thread because Met did not ask that question in her original post and I think it's a crucial question in any discussion about so-called gender wars or male/female divides here.

That may have been presumptuous and intrusive and single-minded of me, but it was not about getting any kind of butch validation.

I am sorry my cross-posting over-stepped, but the last thing I need for any post I ever make is butch validation.

Heart