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Old 06-12-2010, 11:31 AM   #1
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Why the hell not in here?

We aren't some frail wall flowers who can't hear the word. damn.

Let's have the hard discussion about the word. How it's used to oppress, to describe, and to hurt women with..

It's what this thread is about hurtful terms here lemme requote the title of the thread for ya..


Breeder and other words we use to hurt our own.


I even emphasized it for ya
Ok, now wait a minute, because when I brought up that exact conversation...you said not to use the word.

When I made the points you've said here regarding the patriarchy, you said you didn't want to hear the word because it's been used against you and you're sensitive to it.

So what is it? You want to have the conversation, or are we not allowed to say the word. I'm getting mixed messages


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Ok, now wait a minute, because when I brought up that exact conversation...you said not to use the word.

When I made the points you've said here regarding the patriarchy, you said you didn't want to hear the word because it's been used against you and you're sensitive to it.

So what is it? You want to have the conversation, or are we not allowed to say the word. I'm getting mixed messages


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yanno..

I am done...

I think I have explained over and over and over what I meant.

Use the word, don't use it I don't give a fuck at this point
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yanno..

I am done...

I think I have explained over and over and over what I meant.

Use the word, don't use it I don't give a fuck at this point
Alright. I get what you're saying.

My original use of the word was in a patriarchal sense in that women have been viewed as baby making machines (aka breeders) for thousands and thousands of years. It's laced and woven into each of the three main religions that have ruled western society.

It's even the basis for this whole "mothers are saints" idea that has seeped into this thread. Becoming pregnant is not necessarily a 'sacred' act. It's a biological process. Giving birth doesn't automatically make any person a sacred being, saintly figure, loving person, or exalted being. It simply means a biological process has taken place. Yet, once again...thanks to patrairchy, when a person (generally a married woman) completes this process that person is seen as a sacred being (mother mary full of grace) (unless that person is unwed, at which point that person (meaning the woman) is seen as 'soiled'.

And yes, I'm speaking patriarchally and not about myself, particular people, ALL men, etc


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