Are butches really a dying breed?

[Beloved]

Originally Posted by Kobi

I have been with femmes who want me to be the head of the house, who wanted to be June Cleaver, who did not want to work outside the home, who were offended if I did a load of laundry or god forbid cooked myself lunch. Didnt work well for me. Does work for others.

I don't think you are understanding my point. It's fine if you want a 1950's housewife that does NOT work outside the home. My complaint is wanting a 1950's housewife AND expect her to work outside the home. That is my complaint. I think it's unfair to try to have it both ways.

If it works for somebody, I guess that's alright. I would feel taken advantage of, personally.

[Blaze]

I personally don't think butches are a dying breed, now some say we may become extinct... We are just becoming a back burner house hold name because of all the other newer word terms usage that the younger generations are choosing to express their self being as.
I am a proud butch, proud of what the generation before me forged forward to give me freedoms to do, proud for being able to continue their hard grueling torment that society induced on them and us. I had someone ask me the other day, why is it that the word butch for a man more accepted then for a woman. She felt that butch woman should just be known as Dykes. That kind of made me feel sad, to think that the heterosexual community gives the credit to the men more, and are thinking that butch woman should just keep dyke as a prize possession trophy word.
This is why I am even more proud of being a Butch. It is still a cause worth standing for.

I have more to say, but will be back later!

[KayCee]

all I can say is : I hope not!

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by Beloved

I don't think you are understanding my point. It's fine if you want a 1950's housewife that does NOT work outside the home. My complaint is wanting a 1950's housewife AND expect her to work outside the home. That is my complaint. I think it's unfair to try to have it both ways.

If it works for somebody, I guess that's alright. I would feel taken advantage of, personally.

I think I understood you well. You are not someone who would want to be in a relationship where you were expected to both June Cleaver AND work outside of the home. I may not have connected the dots the right way tho in my response.

The point was "people" not "ids" have certain preferences, wants, desires, ideals, expectations etc when it comes to relationships. Different stuff works for different people. Some stuff that works for others would drive me absolutely nuts. Some things I might want might make others feel unuseful or whatever.

Sometimes, I think we come to believe, in this case, that butches are a dying breed, cuz we cant find that person who compliments what we, personally, are looking for. We might find "the look" but we have trouble finding "the right person".

[rustedrims]

I have been reading in here for a while.
I dont think so much that we are a dying breed,I think it is a ID issue.As the young ones step up and come out there are different names/titles/ID's.Like it was mentioned a few times.We are still here but maybe not as visable.
I think Old School best describes me as i am reading.
I like to cut the grass and take out the garbage.I like to tear rooms apart and put them back together different than what they were.I would rather build shelves in the garage than buy them.I use to send my "x" to work in my truck and take her car to work to fill the gas tank up.I also payed.I kept her car clean and waxed,check the oil and even change it.I even go out in the garage and start her car to warm it up in my socks.I would even lay on her side of the bed to get it warm for her.This is the best one of all,i would get up first to sit on the toilet to get that warm for her to.I did it all and more.She took advantage of it.

I like all the make up and cutsie skirts and those killer heels.Pretty Femme hands should never be pumping gas.Should be a law about that.I will step up and do anything to keep those beautiful finger nails from chipping.I Love the Femmes and everything that goes with them.Like i said i guess that makes me OSButch.

[LeftWriteFemme]

[dykeumentary]

Originally Posted by LeftWriteFemme

Do you think the L wording of the world lowered the Butch count?

Good morning! This is a really interesting question to me today because I attended the Philadelphia qFest's event yesterday, featuring Rose Troche, who directed "Go Fish" as well as "The L Word".
http://www.qfest.com/film-details.cfm?c=266&id=10669

I know we've had good discussions on this site about media representation of Butch-Femme community, should we start a fresh thread about it? I'm curious about your thoughts. Its a fascinating question- Does less media representation make for less butches/Femmes? Or are we too small a "market" to drive development of media about us? Even at this queer film fest, it was slim pickings.

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by dykeumentary

Good morning! This is a really interesting question to me today because I attended the Philadelphia qFest's event yesterday, featuring Rose Troche, who directed "Go Fish" as well as "The L Word".
http://www.qfest.com/film-details.cfm?c=266&id=10669

I know we've had good discussions on this site about media representation of Butch-Femme community, should we start a fresh thread about it? I'm curious about your thoughts. Its a fascinating question- Does less media representation make for less butches/Femmes? Or are we too small a "market" to drive development of media about us? Even at this queer film fest, it was slim pickings.

Im not sure I am understanding you here.

"Does less media representation make for less butches/femmes?" Are you suggesting there is a cause and effect between the media and people becoming butch/femme? Or are you saying the media could bring light to the sometimes invisible aspects of the butch/femme community? Or am I totally missing the point?

"Even at this queer film fest, it was slim pickings." Does this mean there was not as much of a visible presence of butch/femme in the way you expect it to look? Or, does it mean it was not well attended? Or, does it mean there was no one you gave thought to hitting on? LOL. Couldnt resist that one.

[LeftWriteFemme]

Originally Posted by dykeumentary

Good morning! This is a really interesting question to me today because I attended the Philadelphia qFest's event yesterday, featuring Rose Troche, who directed "Go Fish" as well as "The L Word".
http://www.qfest.com/film-details.cfm?c=266&id=10669

I know we've had good discussions on this site about media representation of Butch-Femme community, should we start a fresh thread about it? I'm curious about your thoughts. Its a fascinating question- Does less media representation make for less butches/Femmes? Or are we too small a "market" to drive development of media about us? Even at this queer film fest, it was slim pickings.

Originally Posted by Kobi

Im not sure I am understanding you here.

"Does less media representation make for less butches/femmes?" Are you suggesting there is a cause and effect between the media and people becoming butch/femme? Or are you saying the media could bring light to the sometimes invisible aspects of the butch/femme community? Or am I totally missing the point?

"Even at this queer film fest, it was slim pickings." Does this mean there was not as much of a visible presence of butch/femme in the way you expect it to look? Or, does it mean it was not well attended? Or, does it mean there was no one you gave thought to hitting on? LOL. Couldnt resist that one.

So my next question is do you think films like Pariah will encourage young Butches to come out?

[DanieClarke]

nope i became butch after too many cis males came after me

now they all leave me alone

[BstlMyhart]

No Ma'am...I'll still alive and well!

[~ocean]

Originally Posted by BstlMyhart

No Ma'am...I'll still alive and well!

Thank God for that (((( bestill ))))

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by DanieClarke

nope i became butch after too many cis males came after me

now they all leave me alone

this makes me go and

but i'm late to the party so i cant ask any of the questions that are revolving in my brain. probably a good thing as several of them would have to have the snark peeled off of them in order to be considered polite.

[Duchess]

I hope Butches aren't a dying breed. Even though I'm not searching, my heart and my mind are open to finding the right one for me.


Duchess

[FemmeBibliophile]

I have to agree... I really hope they aren't a dying breed. I think that it depends on the location at this point. Where I am is mostly femmes... I'll never find a date in my own town.

[Tuff Stuff]

Originally Posted by DanieClarke

nope i became butch after too many cis males came after me

now they all leave me alone

I still own my butch card... and sis(cis)men are still chasing me. Its no mystery that I kinda fall for the ones that have a womanly quality about them, shrugs.Good thread,interesting to read other peoples thoughts on what a butch is suppose to look or act like.Someone posted that we are like ice-cream flavors..genius
If that's true(I mean it makes sense )then i'm black liquorice.

[girl_dee]

i sure hope not because some of us invisible femmes surely like to be on the arm of our butches!